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Kurr
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Posted - 06/21/2008 :  09:53:08  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yesterday I bought some coins from china that say szechuen Province 7mace and 2 candareens, and a kirin province of the same weight and a Silver dollar portraying Yuan Shikai.

All coins are larger coins, each weighing app 20 grams. I do believe them to be fake as the originals were supposed to be 26grams. I did read that on the fakes they used a slightly less pure silver and they were light, as mine are, 6 grams less.

My question is I was offered these at $2 a piece and cant find if there is enough silver in them to buy , if nothing else, for refining.

Various provinces and all, I am not familiar with chinese coins. They did say the chinese folks that come in buy them and said they were"chinese silver", and one guy the day before bout 170$ worth.

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Freedom is armed sheep contesting the vote.

Copper Catcher
Penny Collector Member



USA
396 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  10:00:28  Show Profile Send Copper Catcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most of those are not real silver. I bet if you slap a magnet to it, you might find it sticks! Not a good sign! :-)

Edited by - Copper Catcher on 06/21/2008 10:01:47
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member



USA
296 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  10:54:02  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Unless you are absolutely sure what they are and what is in them, I would recommend staying away.
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1327 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  13:48:44  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm betting on no silver at all in them. Just say no....

Deal

p.s. "Chinese Silver" huh, try this. Not usually a fan of Wikipedia but, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_silver That is enough for me to see to make my decision.

I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks.

Steady looking for the elusive Indian head....
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Kurr
Penny Collector Member



288 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  14:33:38  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow at %2 silver that comes to .27 cents worth. The originals were .780 an ounce on the fatman dollar I bought. I did get 3 when I saw em, I like em tho. Don't have to make money on everything!

thanks guys

*edit, maybe when they said "Chinese silver" they meant it as we would say, American silver or Canadian silver. Wiki there says its used for jewelry, not coinage.

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Freedom is armed sheep contesting the vote.

Edited by - Kurr on 06/21/2008 14:35:15
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1327 Posts

Posted - 06/21/2008 :  14:49:39  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sad to say, but most anything from China seems to be a fake, unless you know a reputable dealer. I have some pandas, but they came from my usual guy. No worries there. If the coin(s) in question are that under weight, bad deal.

Deal

I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks.

Steady looking for the elusive Indian head....
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legacypac
Penny Hoarding Member



Canada
883 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2008 :  23:46:18  Show Profile Send legacypac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Chinese coins are for the whole country, not individual provinces. Also, the coins are not in English. To Scary for my taste, and I've been in China multiple times.
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CoinHunter53562
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USA
498 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2008 :  07:41:59  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would definitely stay away from them...too many fakes/scams out there involving anything from China.

Load up now while you can!

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Kurr
Penny Collector Member



288 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2008 :  08:57:20  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well I only bought 3, and now the time is passed. here are some pics of the coins I bought, tho not my pics.

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/YUAN-SHIKAI-CHINA-FAT-MAN-DOLLAR-08-OZ-F8_W0QQitemZ200233216472QQihZ010QQcategoryZ4368QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/Kirin-Province-7-Candarins-2-Guang-Xv-Coin_W0QQitemZ280239373672QQihZ018QQcategoryZ4368QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/1898-China-Szechuen-Province-1-Kann-145-Lustre_W0QQitemZ120152895486QQihZ002QQcategoryZ4368QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Like I said, I dont care if they are replicas or not, I liked em and $6 total for something you like is fair enough for me. I spend more at McDonalds!

Just wanted ya'll to have a visual of what I was referring to.

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

Democracy is three wolves and two sheep voting on whats for dinner.

Freedom is armed sheep contesting the vote.
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Crash
Penny Pincher Member



USA
127 Posts

Posted - 06/24/2008 :  15:18:19  Show Profile Send Crash a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was in Shanghai twice this year, & there were tons of vendors hawking silver coins. I didn't have the skill to determine fake from real, but I think the magnet test would be a good starting point. It was funny how hard the vendors tried to convince me they were silver, though. They would clash two coins together & hold them up to your ears so you could hear them ring. Every single one of them did it & I always got a kick out of it.
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fiatboy
Administrator



912 Posts

Posted - 06/30/2008 :  14:38:51  Show Profile Send fiatboy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
A lot of the fakes from China are silver plated.

"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson
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kavajava
Penny Collector Member



USA
296 Posts

Posted - 07/01/2008 :  12:28:38  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have some Pandas I bought a long time ago--but any more, I will only buy them slabbed by PCGS or NGC as an assurance that they are genuine.
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just carl
Penny Collector Member



USA
374 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2008 :  09:14:14  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
After all that Lead in paint on toys from China I would be a little scared to purchase coins from there. Probably now coated with Lead. Where did they get all that Lead for toys anyway?

Carl
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