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Nickelless
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  04:36:33  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is it just my eyes, or do the features on zincs, especially the dates, wear down a lot faster than on coppers? Or is it just that the zincs aren't stamped as deeply? Or is it both? It seems like a lot of the dates on coppers seem more prominent than on zincs. Then again, isn't zinc softer than copper anyway?

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Tourney64
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  11:13:04  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Zincs aren't stamped as deeply. I think they aren't stamped deeply because then the zinc would bleed thru the thin copper layer. On copper they didn't have to worry about that.
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Kurr
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  11:15:43  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I also seem to notice that most of my corroded cents, turn out to be zinc.

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legacypac
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  11:39:00  Show Profile Send legacypac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is a very distict differance in 1970's Canadian Copper Pennies vs modern Steel and Zinc Pennies (Cu coated). I can spot the 70's coins without seeing the date because they are stamped deeper/more relief. The modern pennies are not pressed as deep or hard. I agree with Tourney64 - might be because of the plating.
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misteroman
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  13:18:50  Show Profile Send misteroman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can almost tell which ones are copper just by looking at the rims.The coppers are alot deeper which was kind of mentioned above

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Flbandit
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  15:16:39  Show Profile Send Flbandit a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed, the coppers, especially the rims, seem to wear much better than the zincs.

Are you throwing that out?
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fb101
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Posted - 06/08/2008 :  19:08:03  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The zincs have a definitely lower relief. I've also noticed they do seem to be the majority of corroded cents, for some reason especially 1984s.

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Cerulean
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  08:14:54  Show Profile Send Cerulean a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Mint has been very gradually reducing relief on coins in order to squeeze more life out of their dies and presses. I think the amount of relief in a coin is inversely proportional to its circulation life; in other words, a low relief coin won't live as long as a high relief one. There comes a point when lowering the relief too far will result in more coins being needed to replace the less-durable cheap ones.

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RUNNING TOTAL
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16857 zincs (1982-2008) 75.4%
5346 coppers (1959-1982) 23.9%
110 wheats (1920-1958)
50 Canadian (1959-2007)
1 dime (2004)
1 foreign (2005)


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PennehChaos.
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Posted - 06/09/2008 :  13:08:38  Show Profile Send PennehChaos. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Cerulean
http://www.stujoe.com/content/view/13/26/



Heh, i'm glad to see i'm not the only one who thinks that the new Washington portrait looks ridiculous.

i've noticed that the weak strike problem seems especially bad on 1998-2002 pennies, and that the mint improved things a bit after that. A lot of the Y2K pennies in particular look like they were just sketched on the planchet with a pencil.

For some reason, i get a surprisingly large number of zincs that have partially dissolved... i've had some that were missing a good 15-20% of the metal.

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