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Nickelless
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USA
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Posted - 05/25/2008 :  03:03:26  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I realize there probably isn't a one-size-fits-all way to scan the coppers that the Ryedale is spitting out, but certainly wouldn't want to miss any possible wheats and especially Indian Heads. What system do you guys have to make sure you're not missing any wheats or other coins, other than checking individual dates when the pennies are face-up?

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Gr33nday43
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Posted - 06/16/2008 :  16:22:02  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 an AOL message  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would lay them on a tray and use a halogen lamp to look. Sure you'll miss a few but volume pays for that. You will get a lot more than hand sorting for less the time.

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TenBears
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Posted - 06/16/2008 :  16:59:35  Show Profile Send TenBears a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

I realize there probably isn't a one-size-fits-all way to scan the coppers that the Ryedale is spitting out, but certainly wouldn't want to miss any possible wheats and especially Indian Heads. What system do you guys have to make sure you're not missing any wheats or other coins, other than checking individual dates when the pennies are face-up?



I run everything through IndianHunter (the name for my Ryedale) twice. First, I run with a zinc comparison penny, and I have IndianHunter set up to reject even early wheats and Indian Heads.

My second sort is with a 1980 comparison penny in which I run through everything rejected on the first pass. This is a fun sort because the few older wheats (and presumably the wild Indians) fall into the reject. I then hand sort the copper for the older date wheats. I don't date check; I simply look at the reverse for wheat ears.

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legacypac
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Canada
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Posted - 06/18/2008 :  20:18:28  Show Profile Send legacypac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TenBears

quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

I realize there probably isn't a one-size-fits-all way to scan the coppers that the Ryedale is spitting out, but certainly wouldn't want to miss any possible wheats and especially Indian Heads. What system do you guys have to make sure you're not missing any wheats or other coins, other than checking individual dates when the pennies are face-up?



I run everything through IndianHunter (the name for my Ryedale) twice. First, I run with a zinc comparison penny, and I have IndianHunter set up to reject even early wheats and Indian Heads.

My second sort is with a 1980 comparison penny in which I run through everything rejected on the first pass. This is a fun sort because the few older wheats (and presumably the wild Indians) fall into the reject. I then hand sort the copper for the older date wheats. I don't date check; I simply look at the reverse for wheat ears.



I had to read it twice - but I think I understand you are sorting "zinc accept" and dumping zinc.

Next you are sorting all the copper and other "rejects" (1943 steel, CDN steel etc) on a Cu accept. The wild indians (if they existed) any lower copper content, any zinc missed on the first pass, and any steel falls right to the reject for hand sorting.

You then handsort the copper accepted for wheat, Canadian etc.

I have the same coins in Canada, just in different proportions and am trying to develop the best system.

I ran a bunch of cu accept - and found that anything (like the odd copper, and I presume US steel etc) not new and shiny sure stands out in the zinc/steel pile.
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M83striker
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USA
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Posted - 06/27/2008 :  10:31:19  Show Profile Send M83striker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I run everything through first with the 1979 that came with my Apprentice then take all the zinc rejects and run them through again with a 2001 to glean out the older wheats or indians (if they still exist in the wild). After that I have "flip boards" that I can screen through all the Cu and pluck all the canadians and wheats out.

When my wife got after me it sounded like "Blah,Blah,Blah", but now it sounds like "Clink,Clink,Clink". Its amazing what that Ryedale can do for a hounded husband.
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norcal
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USA
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Posted - 06/27/2008 :  11:48:08  Show Profile Send norcal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by M83striker

then take all the zinc rejects and run them through again with a 2001 to glean out the older wheats or indians



Have you found any older wheats/Indians doing this?

I ran two 5 gallon buckets of zincs against a zinc penny after running them for coppers and didnt find anything.

I know running for copper does miss some older wheats as I ran a test with a bunch of them but since they are more rare I didnt find any.

I decided its not worth my time re-running the zincs.

The easiest way, for me, is to look for these type of coins when breaking open rolls.

I break them open in my 14" gold pan, check them, then use a scoop to put them in the hopper.

I find most wheats/foreigns this way and all IH's as far as I know.

This saves a lot of work later and gives me confidence that I dont need to ever look at my zinc pile again.


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M83striker
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USA
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Posted - 06/27/2008 :  12:18:33  Show Profile Send M83striker a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't usually scan the pennies when I'm dumping them into the Ryedale. After sorting out the copper, the zinc run usually produces a couple wheats from the 20's. Several times now, the zinc run produced some dimes that slipped by, but they go back with the zinc dump anyways.

When my wife got after me it sounded like "Blah,Blah,Blah", but now it sounds like "Clink,Clink,Clink". Its amazing what that Ryedale can do for a hounded husband.
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