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TexasPQ
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Posted - 05/03/2008 :  11:39:21  Show Profile Send TexasPQ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Anyone have any experience with Apmex or other sites that sell bullion on the internet? I want to get some silver with my "stimulus" money.

nckt
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USA
304 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  12:27:04  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://bullion.nwtmint.com/index.php
you could try that site, but the best way to buy bullion closest to spot price is a trusted dealer near you, because you don't have to pay shipping, and you can bargain.
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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 05/03/2008 :  13:51:24  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Any way to buy local? Usually much cheaper, and the relationship you build can help in the long run.

Deal

I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks.
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moboman
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USA
1335 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  23:28:59  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I cant help much with sites. But on ebay, I have bought some silver. I havent been screwed yet, so I think ebay it is for me, if im buying online. Otherwise I go to a coin dealer that has bullion $1/oz over spot, and they dont care even if they are silver eagles. If it is a silver round that is sold to them from an individual, it is spot +1. Or at a coinshow, where there is no tax! Tax ruins all my fun. Why should I pay tax to buy gold/silver eagles? If I went to spend it at a store, it would be seen as $1/$50 and your telling me that I have to pay tax!

I have a hard time resisting the temptation to take a wheat penny out of the take a penny cup when I see one!
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nckt
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USA
304 Posts

Posted - 05/03/2008 :  23:37:44  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
if you buy over $1000 you don't have to pay tax
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moboman
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USA
1335 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  00:58:22  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In Ohio? I always pay cash, they probably just pocket the money anyway.
Because if so, I think the government owes me a little money back :D.

I have a hard time resisting the temptation to take a wheat penny out of the take a penny cup when I see one!
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TexasPQ
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Posted - 05/04/2008 :  19:56:54  Show Profile Send TexasPQ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I ended up getting some bullion at the local coin store for about the same price as the website. There is a sales tax where I live which is unfortunate.
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nckt
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USA
304 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  20:30:44  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i don't know if it is just in California, but if you buy more then $1000 dollars of silver, gold, platinum, of coins there is no tax.
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TenBears
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Posted - 05/04/2008 :  20:33:26  Show Profile Send TenBears a Private Message  Reply with Quote
www.coloradogold.com has good prices, but you have to buy in large quantities. Survivalblog.com recommends coloradogold. I assume you paid the Texas sales tax judging by your name. There are better deals to be found than paying sales tax on bullion purchases. www.gainesvillecoins.com has had good prices on bullion from time to time.

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nckt
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USA
304 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  20:39:46  Show Profile Send nckt a Private Message  Reply with Quote
wow coloradogold has very good prices
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MormonMetal
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USA
129 Posts

Posted - 05/04/2008 :  20:54:55  Show Profile Send MormonMetal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've ordered through APMEX several times. The shipping can be high if paying with plastic; but quick shipping and everything is as described. I've heard good things about bulliondirect.com, but haven't given them a try. I try to purchase local with cash now, in case the "MAN" is keeping his eyes on my shopping.
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NotABigDeal
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USA
1848 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  06:35:45  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hold the presses. MormonMetal made me go back and check my records. I DID buy some PM's online from Bullion Direct. A little gold and silver in late '06 early '07. I remember why I pretty much buy local. Decent prices, but the delivery fee and the handling fee are a little high. I'm a fan of cash payments as well....

Deal

I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks.
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Saul Mine
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USA
335 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2008 :  08:33:28  Show Profile Send Saul Mine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cash and carry is best. There is no paper record, no worries about delayed delivery, and no worries about the seller taking your money and filing for bankruptcy.

A penny sorted is a penny earned!

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CoinHunter53562
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USA
627 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2008 :  08:07:31  Show Profile Send CoinHunter53562 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have seen some sites out there:

www.apmex.com = charges a higher premium it seems over spot than others, but has no minimum that I saw

www.amark.com = prices are pretty good, but there is a 5000 ounce minimum for a silver purchase

www.coloradogold.com = really good prices, but there is a 100 ounce minimum for silver

www.tulving.com = good prices, good reputation, but also a 100 ounce minimum

www.coppersilvergold.com = a newer site still under construction, competitive prices, no minimum listed, but no way to contact right now

www.kitco.com = prices are a little higher than some of the other sites, didnt see any minimum listed, currently out of ASE's, Canadian Maples, and 1 oz gold bars this morning. I thought they sold bags of junk 90% silver coins but didnt see that on their product listing

www.cmi-gold-silver.com = has alot of products listed, but didnt see any prices so I think you have to call to get the current price, 300 ounce minimum on silver

Load up now while you can!

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moboman
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USA
1335 Posts

Posted - 05/12/2008 :  11:44:45  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nckt

i don't know if it is just in California, but if you buy more then $1000 dollars of silver, gold, platinum, of coins there is no tax.



Does any one know what states this applies to? Maybe the local dealer doesnt know this? The guy said I had to have a vendors license to avoid taxes and then there would be a paper trail and everyone would know where my stash is.

I have a hard time resisting the temptation to take a wheat penny out of the take a penny cup when I see one!
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Gr33nday43
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USA
292 Posts

Posted - 06/20/2008 :  02:01:53  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 an AOL message  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
In kentucky, I always buy local except for certain rare coins. Sometimes I snatch a deal on ebay, but it has to be an excellent one!

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natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 :  09:41:00  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by moboman

quote:
Originally posted by nckt

i don't know if it is just in California, but if you buy more then $1000 dollars of silver, gold, platinum, of coins there is no tax.



Does any one know what states this applies to? Maybe the local dealer doesnt know this? The guy said I had to have a vendors license to avoid taxes and then there would be a paper trail and everyone would know where my stash is.



See if your state has something similar to this, a listing of all taxable and non-taxable merchandise:

http://www.revenue.state.pa.us/revenue/lib/revenue/rev-717.pdf

Bullion / investment metal and collectible coins are non-taxable in PA.

Nate
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kavajava
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USA
487 Posts

Posted - 06/22/2008 :  15:18:20  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nckt

http://bullion.nwtmint.com/index.php
you could try that site, but the best way to buy bullion closest to spot price is a trusted dealer near you, because you don't have to pay shipping, and you can bargain.



In one of the other threads someone pointed out that they are not a place to buy from--gave a link to attorney general complaints--they recommended to stay away.

A place that was recommended was Caspars.com

I think the thread was about buying ASE's if you want to check it out.
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Lemon Thrower
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USA
201 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2008 :  00:03:40  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nckt

http://bullion.nwtmint.com/index.php
you could try that site, but the best way to buy bullion closest to spot price is a trusted dealer near you, because you don't have to pay shipping, and you can bargain.



I had an extremely poor transaction with NW Territorial Mint.
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Lemon Thrower
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USA
201 Posts

Posted - 06/23/2008 :  00:05:42  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CoinHunter53562

I have seen some sites out there:

www.apmex.com = charges a higher premium it seems over spot than others, but has no minimum that I saw

www.amark.com = prices are pretty good, but there is a 5000 ounce minimum for a silver purchase

www.coloradogold.com = really good prices, but there is a 100 ounce minimum for silver

www.tulving.com = good prices, good reputation, but also a 100 ounce minimum

www.coppersilvergold.com = a newer site still under construction, competitive prices, no minimum listed, but no way to contact right now

www.kitco.com = prices are a little higher than some of the other sites, didnt see any minimum listed, currently out of ASE's, Canadian Maples, and 1 oz gold bars this morning. I thought they sold bags of junk 90% silver coins but didnt see that on their product listing

www.cmi-gold-silver.com = has alot of products listed, but didnt see any prices so I think you have to call to get the current price, 300 ounce minimum on silver



have done business successfully with apmex, but if you are buying in quantity then Tuliving has much better prices. Tulving has great service too - kind of a mom and pop outfit in a good way.
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Chip500
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USA
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Posted - 07/01/2008 :  16:59:58  Show Profile Send Chip500 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
NWT mint is extreamly slow and can cost you money if you are looking to sell on a spike, I have had good deals with APMEX, and bullion direct. Hope this helps
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daviscfad
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Posted - 07/07/2008 :  16:52:45  Show Profile Send daviscfad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i called apmex today and for walking likberty halves they said they would give me 12.1 times face value for 40 rolls
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Copper Catcher
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USA
594 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2008 :  20:32:51  Show Profile Send Copper Catcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just order some silver from Justin at www.casperscoins.com. This is my first time dealing with him and he sounded nice and was easy to get along with. I told him about an earlier post on the forum and he said he was slammed with orders. His email is justin@casperscoins.com and phone 574-272-5554. They sell silver at .25 over spot. He will have my check by 12:00 noon tomorrow and I'm sure I'll get the silver fast too.

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