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TenBears
Penny Hoarding Member
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 Posted - 04/16/2008 : 11:30:44
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Those of us here in the States, or even our Canadian penny and nickel hoarding brethren, might complain about recent events in our economy, the falling dollar, food prices, etc. I just got off the phone with a friend of mine who lives in London, England. Gas prices in London are currently $10.64 a gallon!! Boy, I have a new perspective on my current circumstances.
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"Rich," the Old Man said dreamily, "is not baying after what you can't have. Rich is having the time to do what you want to do. Rich is a little whiskey to drink and some food to eat and a roof over your head and a fish pole and a boat and a gun and a dollar for a box of shells. Rich is not owing any money to anybody, and not spending what you haven't got." Robert Ruark
there are too wild Indians...
there are too wild Indians...
there are too wild Indians...-----still taunted
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Crash
Penny Pincher Member
USA
131 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2008 : 12:20:55
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| I'm pretty sure I would lose it if wehad to pay that. Fortunately, for people in London, they have affordable public transportation. Where I live, it's non-existent. Not that trhat excuses $10.64 a gallon. |
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Cerulean
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1349 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2008 : 13:40:34
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Originally posted by Cerulean
I wonder how the UK fuel tax rate on petrol compares to American or Canadian fuel taxes.
Gas is actually slightly cheaper in the UK compared to the US if you take out the tax component (or at least was in 2006). Generally gas prices around the world are surprisingly about the same if you take out the tax component.
http://www.shell.com/home/content/au-en/shell_for_motorists/petrol_pricing/prices/world_prices_0116.html
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
3603 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2008 : 14:14:43
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Except in CA.. the extra cost isn't all state taxes. Even though we have plenty of refineries here they claim we have to pay extra for a special blend.. LOL. Sometimes they say it is to put something in.. sometimes they say it is to take something out. Average for this state right now is $3.86 per gallon for regular.
I kind of like McCain's proposal to zero out the Federal tax for a while. Now there would be an ecomomic stimulus. Of course he is just saying it as a political thing. |
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TenBears
Penny Hoarding Member
873 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2008 : 16:35:37
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| In many places in California you are required to have oxygenated gasoline, that means an oxygenate was added to your gasoline to make it burn cleaner. Oxygenated gasoline is required in areas that are ozone non-attainment areas under the Clean Air Act. If you live anywhere close to one of California's major cities, there is a good chance you live in a non-attainment area. Think haze and smog. Your "special blend", in all likelihood, is simply gasoline with an added oxygenate. And, oxygenated gasoline is usually a little more expensive that non-oxygenated gasoline. I like McCain's proposal as well. |
"Rich," the Old Man said dreamily, "is not baying after what you can't have. Rich is having the time to do what you want to do. Rich is a little whiskey to drink and some food to eat and a roof over your head and a fish pole and a boat and a gun and a dollar for a box of shells. Rich is not owing any money to anybody, and not spending what you haven't got." Robert Ruark
there are too wild Indians...
there are too wild Indians...
there are too wild Indians...-----still taunted
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Ponce
Penny Pincher Member
Cuba
174 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2008 : 18:14:33
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| As long as silver keeps up with the price of gas my price per gallong will be way under a dollar per gallon.......who says that silver doesn't pay??? |
"If you don't hold it, you don't own it"...Ponce |
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Know Common Cents
Penny Pincher Member
173 Posts |
Posted - 04/16/2008 : 18:20:55
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We have the stupid 10% Ethanol blend gas mandated in all of SE Wisconsin. This is primarily due to all of the airborne crud generated in Chicago and travelling northward up the Lake Michigan shoreline. We're unwilling participants Dime Per Gallon Increase at the Pump Every 3 Days Club. Current Milwaukee prices $3.59 for us working class folks in the city and $3.69 in the snobbish 'burbs.
It'd actually be cheaper for us if someone would develop a milk-burning engine. One of the few things we have going for us is cheaper milk. Usually 2 gallons for $5. |
Here in Wisconsin, we have some of the highest property and gasoline taxes in the US. We're squeezed so much, I have to make my daughter wear penny boxes for shoes. At least she has an endless supply. |
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eharrison
Penny Pincher Member
USA
234 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2008 : 23:30:54
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Down here in AL It is around 3.19-3.25, that's up from about 3.11 a few weeks ago when I filled up.
I too like the idea of suspending.getting rid of the gas tax and agree that McWar just says it b/c of the election.
As for ethanol....what a joke. Using it for the general public actually uses more oil and produces more carbon when it is made. Not to mention that using food for fuel is the MOST IDIOTIC thing I have ever heard!
(maybe that last part should go into the vent thread) |
Freedom is popular
That's why I voted
Ron Paul! |
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misteroman
Moderator
USA
1246 Posts |
Posted - 04/17/2008 : 23:50:13
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They had a special report on the news tonight saying that gas could hit $4 within 2 weeks in WNY.Maybe I can find that 79 Trans am I've been looking for now.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
3603 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2008 : 00:12:31
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It's all part of a government conspiracy to drive up the price of gas. Then they can sell off the strategic reserves and pay off the national debt.  |
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Know Common Cents
Penny Pincher Member
173 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2008 : 20:37:47
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Another dime up today to $3.69. Oil closed near $117/bbl today, so what do I expect? I'm not liking this at all. Not too many more dimes to go before we hit $3.999. Not even 3 gallons for a $10 bill for the past couple of weeks.
Stop the pain!
Open the drain!
At the Non-Strategic Petroleum Reserve |
Here in Wisconsin, we have some of the highest property and gasoline taxes in the US. We're squeezed so much, I have to make my daughter wear penny boxes for shoes. At least she has an endless supply. |
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Ardent Listener
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2008 : 20:53:05
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| I hear it being said that they want to get rid of the gasoline tax but make the interstate system into toll roads owned by private owners...........China? Even with the tax gone, how long would it take the oil companies to up their prices until they are higher than they are now? |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
3603 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2008 : 21:11:11
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1848 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2008 : 21:32:50
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Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
If it goes up much more they might have to start considering eliminating the subsidies for the oil companies.
Doubt the subsidies are going anywhere any time soon. I don't qualify for any government subsidies....
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I'm so sick over pennies....I frequently trade a dime or two for the whole "take-a-penny" container if sufficient coppers exist. That will get you some odd looks. |
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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1334 Posts |
Posted - 04/18/2008 : 22:23:28
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I use to think that using food for gas was stupid. But, if we lowered the amount paid out in welfare, and in turn made these people farm corn, we could have plenty of fuel. As well as lower corn prices.
I still find hybrids stupid, they really do nothing and are just a marketing gimick. But I guess they make our nickels worth more :D. |
I have a hard time resisting the temptation to take a wheat penny out of the take a penny cup when I see one! |
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No82s
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 04/18/2008 : 23:42:59
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| Oil is priced in dollars (at least for now, this may change). As the dollar falls the price of oil goes up so that the rich ***** Arabs still make the same amount of money. If the dollar would start rising against the foreign currencies the price of oil will come down. I believe the government has let the dollar drop to make oil expensive, thus new energy alternatives become more economical and are easily developed because they now become cost effective. |
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just carl
Penny Collector Member
USA
397 Posts |
Posted - 04/19/2008 : 09:16:26
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Posted - 04/16/2008 : 18:20:55
We have the stupid 10% Ethanol blend gas mandated in all of SE Wisconsin. This is primarily due to all of the airborne crud generated in Chicago and travelling northward up the Lake Michigan shoreline. We're unwilling participants Dime Per Gallon Increase at the Pump Every 3 Days Club. Current Milwaukee prices $3.59 for us working class folks in the city and $3.69 in the snobbish 'burbs.
In reality, we here in the Chicago area purposely produce crud in the air to eliminate that smell of cheeze heads, cows, manure from Wisconsin.  I suspect in Milwaukee most gas is used in cars to get to a bar anyway and in a gas gussling RV, SUV or possibly a tractor. 
Now here in civilazation we are clean, cool and collective. No worries about gas prices since we have so much public transportation that everyone uses. 
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moboman
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 04/19/2008 : 22:50:12
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Public transportation.
None in Cincinnati. It seems like it would never work here, downtown is dead, everyone has different destinations, people have lived with the freedom of cars for so long here. |
I have a hard time resisting the temptation to take a wheat penny out of the take a penny cup when I see one! |
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Know Common Cents
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 04/21/2008 : 19:38:55
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Just Carl ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Your views on Wisconsin would make you a very popular person in the Milwaukee comedy clubs. I've petitioned our Governor to set up a series of huge fans along the Lake Michigan shoreline to blow all of the airborne crud back to its point of origin. LOL
Add another dime to our gasoline prices today. Cha Ching !! Now $3.79.
Would you rather go to the dentist or fill an empty tank? I vote neither. |
Here in Wisconsin, we have some of the highest property and gasoline taxes in the US. We're squeezed so much, I have to make my daughter wear penny boxes for shoes. At least she has an endless supply. |
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Delawhere Jack
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
516 Posts |
Posted - 04/21/2008 : 20:36:13
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In Delaware, within 20 miles of half a dozen refineries:
$3.39 reg
$3.59 plus
$3.69 premium
Regular jumped 10 cents at virtually every station this past Sunday, the other grades even more. |
"Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion...when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing...when you see your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you...when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice...you may know that your society is doomed."
Ayn Rand, from Atlas Shrugged
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