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Gr33nday43
Penny Hoarding Member
Uzbekistan
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 Posted - 06/26/2009 : 10:21:26
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Well I've got a mailman who doesn't really enjoy my love of copper pennies...especially when they come through the mail. He's threatened to start making me pick them up at the post office. How do I deal with him? 
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1492 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 10:30:50
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| It might be wise to get a small postoffice box to get your mail. Some of these guys can get quite obnoxious. A postoffice box is safer too. |
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SANITARIUM_INMATE
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 10:32:35
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| It's his job, if he don't like it then he can ask to be removed from that route. If he threatens you again I would report him/her. Without you as the "customer" persay then he would be out of the job anyways. |
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smartinson
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 10:37:18
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| To avoid a battle with the mail person, just pick them up. We are ruual and my mail man is usually wonderful but I doubt he/she would not deliver boxes that weigh alot. Even though I am home, I usually get a card unless it is unusual and they want to know what I am getting. |
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Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
Saudi Arabia
1546 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 10:38:06
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| I wouldn't blame the guy if he has a walking route, and has to carry it from further then the curb. Prolonged carrying of heavy objects is bad for your health, and he has the right to complain. |
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1446 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 11:37:08
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If they don't like carrying heavy boxes, then the Postal Workers Union or what ever union they belong to needs to take it up with the Post Master General to get the weight limit reduced if it truly is a problem. Until then, they need to quit their whining and be happy they have a job with those obscene lavish government perks...
I'll gladly lug those packages around for what they make...
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Ant
Moderator
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 11:46:16
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
Well I've got a mailman who doesn't really enjoy my love of copper pennies...especially when they come through the mail. He's threatened to start making me pick them up at the post office. How do I deal with him?
You could go to your local post office and ask one of the clerks at the counter what the rules are, exactly. It may be that the carrier has the leeway to leave the boxes at the post office. If it turns out that he must deliver them to your door, I'd wait and see if he actually does try to make you pick them up at the post office.
I second the suggestion of getting a post office box -- not just because your mailman is iffy, but because incoming and outgoing mail is unprotected in a regular mailbox.
Helpful Mail-Related Hint: Your carrier may not be based at your local post office. Sometimes carriers work out of one or two central post offices instead. If you ask the counter staff at your local post office, they can tell you, based on your address, which post office your mail is distributed from and will give you the phone number and contact person. This is useful, because at least in my phone book, the USPS listing only has one or two numbers for the central location and distribution center, never anything really helpful. With the number your local p.o. provides you, you can dial it and actually get a real live person, should future issues arise. |
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theo
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 11:54:59
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
Well I've got a mailman who doesn't really enjoy my love of copper pennies...especially when they come through the mail. He's threatened to start making me pick them up at the post office. How do I deal with him?
I would think the U.S.P.S. would have some kind policy on heavier packages. Something like, "packages weighing over 10 pounds must be picked up."
I also think its important to remember that the USPS is paid a premium for shipping heavier packages. So you have no reason to feel guilty about getting a service which is being paid for. I understand you don't want to overly confrontive, but if your carrier is being rude to you for having to do his/her job, you have every right to complain. |
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natsb88
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
1256 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 12:41:15
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I pick mine up at the post office. A PO box is only about $40 a year. The extra security is nice and the anonymity is nice.
I had this discussion with the ladies at the post office before, and the carriers, at least around here, get paid for every package they deliver. That might just be a rural carrier thing though. |
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JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 13:32:46
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Hi Gr33nday43,
The USPS recently changed their policy so that a flat rate would be applied to each shipping box as long as the material being shipped fit within the box regardless how dense the package happens to be. I think they even said something like this on recent television ads probably to better compete with UPS and FedEx. However this change was made by the executives who do not participate in the grunt work of delivering the mail. If you live close to the post office or want to have a pleasant friendship with the post man, it may not be such a bad idea to make a trip down there to collect these shipments.
Last thing you want is for the person who delivers your merchandise to become unhappy with you.
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Gr33nday43
Penny Hoarding Member
Uzbekistan
863 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 14:09:24
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Originally posted by Neckro
I wouldn't blame the guy if he has a walking route, and has to carry it from further then the curb. Prolonged carrying of heavy objects is bad for your health, and he has the right to complain.
Neckro, he usually just quickly drives down by my house and drops it at my house. The walk is less than 10 feet. Today when I got a shipment from wags, he dropped it so hard the bottom busted out...BTW thanks wags. |
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S 604 - 30 Cosponsors 30% of Senate
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I hope you'll join with me, as we try to change it." -- His Excellency Barack Hussein 0bama, Head of Government,
Duce of Socialism, and Founder of the Empire.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Neckro
1000+ Penny Miser Member
Saudi Arabia
1546 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2009 : 14:32:48
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| If it's a drive a drop, he shouldn't complain. If it was one of those carriers with the dollies, who have to manually lug stuff around all day, then yeah. This guy is too lazy. Or didn't read the job requirements of lifting 70+lbs |
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buyingsilvers
Penny Collector Member
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 14:39:06
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IONO... I wouldnt fight the mail carrier. You dont want to be a pushover, but butting heads with the people servicing you = complaints to upper management = change in policy. You could potentially ruin things, not only for yourself, but for others as well.
Should try to solve the problem diplomatically. |
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Silver Surfer
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 17:10:06
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Originally posted by Ant
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
Well I've got a mailman who doesn't really enjoy my love of copper pennies...especially when they come through the mail. He's threatened to start making me pick them up at the post office. How do I deal with him?
You could go to your local post office and ask one of the clerks at the counter what the rules are, exactly. It may be that the carrier has the leeway to leave the boxes at the post office. If it turns out that he must deliver them to your door, I'd wait and see if he actually does try to make you pick them up at the post office.
I second the suggestion of getting a post office box -- not just because your mailman is iffy, but because incoming and outgoing mail is unprotected in a regular mailbox.
Helpful Mail-Related Hint: Your carrier may not be based at your local post office. Sometimes carriers work out of one or two central post offices instead. If you ask the counter staff at your local post office, they can tell you, based on your address, which post office your mail is distributed from and will give you the phone number and contact person. This is useful, because at least in my phone book, the USPS listing only has one or two numbers for the central location and distribution center, never anything really helpful. With the number your local p.o. provides you, you can dial it and actually get a real live person, should future issues arise.
This is excellent advice. Find out the exact rules for your area.
Personally, I wouldn't cave in to a lazy mailman. If he thinks elements of his job are too strenuous, he needs to find another one better suited for his set of skills. Don't enable a lazy mail man by capitulating to his slothful nature. In my line of work, sometimes I have to shut down a lane of traffic or part of a road in order to work and will often hear complaints that they actually have to get out of their trucks and walk to the mail box. So, I see a lot of these characters in action. Some of them are too lazy to bend their arms out too far (while seated in their little mail delivery trucks) in order to open the mailbox and deliver a couple of small envelopes. |
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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Country
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 17:21:39
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
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Originally posted by Neckro
I wouldn't blame the guy if he has a walking route, and has to carry it from further then the curb. Prolonged carrying of heavy objects is bad for your health, and he has the right to complain.
Neckro, he usually just quickly drives down by my house and drops it at my house. The walk is less than 10 feet. Today when I got a shipment from wags, he dropped it so hard the bottom busted out...BTW thanks wags.
I think you really got to seriously consider getting a postoffice box for your packages and mail. The last thing you want to see is your coins splattered all over the place. For peace of mind and safety of your coins, it will be worth it. |
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orionstarman
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 17:39:24
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
Well I've got a mailman who doesn't really enjoy my love of copper pennies...especially when they come through the mail. He's threatened to start making me pick them up at the post office. How do I deal with him?
It's his job. A mail carrier has to be able to lift and carry 70lbs. It's a job requirement of all mail carriers. If he can't do his job than he needs to find a new one. That being said I don't expect a city carrier to carry a 70lb package all over his route. He has a truck. He should leave the packages in the truck deliver the regular mail and than go back and drive his truck to where the package goes. Yeah, that means that he has to spend a little extra time back tracking but it's either that or carry the heavy package all over town. Which ever way he chooses to do it does not matter because it's his job. If I told my boss that I didn't want to do my job he'd tell me to hit the road. Don't let the guy bluff you he knows what his job is.
On the other hand, if you get heavy packages very often you can always do a little something extra for the guy. A cold drink on a hot day builds a lot of good will. If the guy has a sweet tooth leave a little something in the box for him. What ever you do remember he chose to work for the Post Office |
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Market Harmony
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Silver Surfer
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 06/26/2009 : 18:33:05
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Originally posted by orionstarman
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Originally posted by Gr33nday43
Well I've got a mailman who doesn't really enjoy my love of copper pennies...especially when they come through the mail. He's threatened to start making me pick them up at the post office. How do I deal with him?
It's his job. A mail carrier has to be able to lift and carry 70lbs. It's a job requirement of all mail carriers. If he can't do his job than he needs to find a new one. That being said I don't expect a city carrier to carry a 70lb package all over his route. He has a truck. He should leave the packages in the truck deliver the regular mail and than go back and drive his truck to where the package goes. Yeah, that means that he has to spend a little extra time back tracking but it's either that or carry the heavy package all over town. Which ever way he chooses to do it does not matter because it's his job. If I told my boss that I didn't want to do my job he'd tell me to hit the road. Don't let the guy bluff you he knows what his job is.
On the other hand, if you get heavy packages very often you can always do a little something extra for the guy. A cold drink on a hot day builds a lot of good will. If the guy has a sweet tooth leave a little something in the box for him. What ever you do remember he chose to work for the Post Office
Agree with this post as well.
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Silver Surfer
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USA
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PreservingThePast
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 14:01:21
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Originally posted by natsb88
I pick mine up at the post office. A PO box is only about $40 a year. The extra security is nice and the anonymity is nice.
I had this discussion with the ladies at the post office before, and the carriers, at least around here, get paid for every package they deliver. That might just be a rural carrier thing though.
I believe that the price of a PO Box may differ slightly by market area. I think our box is only around $25.00 a year. Of course, different sizes will vary the price too.
I have also had some people tell me lately, don't know if it is true or not, that a lot of the smaller post offices are actually owned by private businesses and they contract with the US Government, etc. I know two small ones in our somewhat rural county have closed recently. |
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slickeast
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 15:04:41
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I have a PO box and it is wonderful.40 bucks a year.
I had one of my Ryedales go to the wrong address once. It was FedEx but any package could have wound up in the wrong hands.
Also you are setting yourself up when packages are being left on a regular basis. People are out of work and your package might start looking good to someone.
The lady at the PO asked me if the 3 boxes that she heard the guys grunting to move in the back were mine.
Yup...there was a key in my box to get them out of the big drop box.
My mailman walks our street. So for him to carry a big box is asking a lot. But he doesn't deliver the big boxes anyways. They are dropped off by a driver that pulls up to the curb.
Get a PO box...that way everyone and their brother doesn't know that you are getting high volume of packages. |
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Silver Surfer
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 16:18:25
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$40.00 a year is 4000 cents a year. Just think about how many potential indian heads, wheats and of course copper coins could and will be missed by spending that extra $40.00 a year on a PO Box and not on cents.
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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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slickeast
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 19:00:02
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$40.00 a year is 4000 cents a year. Just think about how many potential indian heads, wheats and of course copper coins could and will be missed by spending that extra $40.00 a year on a PO Box and not on cents.
Or you can have someone steal your box of coppers off the front porch that you just paid $150 for. |
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CoinHunter53562
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USA
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 19:24:43
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I would go with either a PO Box or have them hold for pickup. If you stoke the fires with a guy who is already irritated with you, things could escalate. I'm not talking about him going postal on you, but rather your stuff disappearing into a lake, or getting stolen, or purposedly delivered to the wrong address just to make you suffer and wonder where your stuff is.
Guys like him have probably been there for years, hate their jobs, but stay because the pay and benefits are good. So they will do just the bare minimum and complain when they are asked to do above what is normal, even if it's their job. Unfortunately, I dont know that talking to his boss would be all that productive because of the points outlined in the 1st paragraph.
Ultimately it's up to you to decide how to proceed, but if I were you, I would just get the PO Box or mailbox at the UPS Store and have them delivered there. Whatever you decide, good luck! |
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CoinHunter53562
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 19:29:10
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Originally posted by Silver Surfer
In my line of work, sometimes I have to shut down a lane of traffic or part of a road in order to work and will often hear complaints that they actually have to get out of their trucks and walk to the mail box. So, I see a lot of these characters in action. Some of them are too lazy to bend their arms out too far (while seated in their little mail delivery trucks) in order to open the mailbox and deliver a couple of small envelopes.
Lol...funny you said this. My cable/internet went out last Sunday, and the guy had to come by Monday to fix it. He was telling me how our carrier in this area always gets mad at him, because he has to get out of his truck to walk the mail to the mailbox if the cable guy is working somewhere on his route. God forbid if the guy has to get out of his comfy chair once or twice a day. The cable guy said he will purposely park his service truck in a way not to block the mailbox, but just enough to force the guy to get out of his truck to deliver the mail. |
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Silver Surfer
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Posted - 06/28/2009 : 21:26:03
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Lol...funny you said this. My cable/internet went out last Sunday, and the guy had to come by Monday to fix it. He was telling me how our carrier in this area always gets mad at him, because he has to get out of his truck to walk the mail to the mailbox if the cable guy is working somewhere on his route. God forbid if the guy has to get out of his comfy chair once or twice a day. The cable guy said he will purposely park his service truck in a way not to block the mailbox, but just enough to force the guy to get out of his truck to deliver the mail.
Sounds exactly like what I see and experience at work on a regular basis. Watched a mailman one day last week, jump a curb with his truck and ride the sidewalk, while taking out several nice flowers, ivy and plants in his way because he couldn't reach the mailbox from the comfort of his truck. It's really pathetic. |
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of it's victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busy-bodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis |
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