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klava
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USA
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Posted - 08/28/2008 :  03:40:15  Show Profile  Send klava an AOL message Send klava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have decided instead of selling my copper at such a low price(around here prices are crap sompared to bigger places). I would like to start melting my copper and making bricks out of them. What is a good site to read about this? Where is a good place to get ingot moulds? I guess Id go with a 1lb mould. that seems reasonable. I just want soemthign that will look good and be easy to store for the long term. Is there anyone doing this? Thanks for any help!

-K

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horgad
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Posted - 08/28/2008 :  07:33:45  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do a search for mini cupola furnace or home foundry. The basics require knowledge of high temperature insulations (refractory cement, fire bricks, etc), heat delivery systems (propane, oil, coal, etc.), risks, and safety measures. Also welding skills are a big plus but not required. I have wanted to build one for a long time, but I am plagued by too many hobbies and not enough time.

Basically what you do is build a small chimney lined with refractory cement or bricks. You but your heat source and ventilation at the bottom and a melting pot at the top and voila! Try not to burn yourself molten metal tends to "sting" a bit.

Edited by - horgad on 08/28/2008 07:37:55
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pencilvanian
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Posted - 08/28/2008 :  16:59:51  Show Profile Send pencilvanian a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lindsay sells books on the subject on foundry hooyists.

http://www.lindsaybks.com/prod/sub/foundry.html

There are also books on metal casting.

I hope this information helps in some way.
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Gr33nday43
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USA
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Posted - 08/28/2008 :  17:16:48  Show Profile  Send Gr33nday43 an AOL message  Send Gr33nday43 a Yahoo! Message Send Gr33nday43 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are you melting pennies?
If so I would advise against that.
You would need a flux, like borax.
The bars most likely aren't going to look pretty, wash them in muriatic acid and polish them to make them look a little better.
Backyardmetalcasting.com is a good site but isn't organinized, and isn't really a how-to site.

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klava
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USA
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Posted - 08/28/2008 :  23:29:12  Show Profile  Send klava an AOL message Send klava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not my coppers, no. I have them in rolls sitting in 50 dollar mint bags. Im hanging onto them for their future numismatic value. Im talking about wiring, pipes, etc. I just want to have a better way of storing it long term and less identifiable than the norm. Plus I think they would look cool lol. Illcheck out those sites thanks for the input.

-K

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legacypac
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Canada
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Posted - 08/29/2008 :  01:53:38  Show Profile Send legacypac a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gr33nday43

Are you melting pennies?
If so I would advise against that.
You would need a flux, like borax.
The bars most likely aren't going to look pretty, wash them in muriatic acid and polish them to make them look a little better.
Backyardmetalcasting.com is a good site but isn't organinized, and isn't really a how-to site.



Did your Canadian penny melting not work out as planned?
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Kurr
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Posted - 08/29/2008 :  08:56:51  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Copper has a baaaad problem about oxidizing even with a bit of flux in the mix. You almost need a vacuum arc furnace to do it properly. IMHO. Plus it might be easier to store for you, but how will your scrapyard know what purity it is?

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klava
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USA
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Posted - 08/30/2008 :  00:29:28  Show Profile  Send klava an AOL message Send klava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kurr I have thought of that. They pretty much classifuy copper as number 1 or 2. After doing a bit more reading about it I dont know if i have the time and energy to fool with it. may just keep saving until I have a huge amount then haul it an hour and a half to where I will get alot better price for it. Then just invest in some bullion of some type.

-K

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JerrySpringer
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Posted - 08/30/2008 :  00:49:35  Show Profile Send JerrySpringer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Copper is fairly soft. Maybe just crush the pipes in a vise or hit them with a mallet to reduce their volume?
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