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Nickelless
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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 Posted - 07/31/2008 : 11:18:17
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I was talking with a friend over lunch and mentioned that I was sorting and reselling copper pennies, and while I think she understands at least the profit per se in copper pennies, I got to thinking, there are a lot of situations where we're in a conversation that's conducive to bringing up the fundamental problems and future of the U.S. economy (and every other fiat system), but sometimes we don't have a lot of time to make the "hard sell" to convince people what the danger is and what they should be doing. So I got to thinking, what are, say, the five best websites or other resources that are easily accessible and can be understood by anyone who is willing to consider that maybe everything isn't well with the state of our economy and the future of our country, but that there are things they can do to soften the fall. Suggestions?
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Why hyperinflation is inevitable...and very soon:
http://www.shadowstats.com/article/292
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 07/31/2008 : 12:31:31
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For modern stuff, I think that I would start by pointing them to everything that Ron Paul has written. His stuff is good and more importantly he has probably about the best credentials of anybody around to back up what he is saying.
The root of the problem with the American people is not that they are stupid, but rather that they are lacking in basic knowledge of history and are making decisions and judgements solely based on what current and recent leaders have been saying. If they took a step back and taught themselves a little history of money and governments, they would be awakened.
Unfortunately, free school for everyone, is turning out to be the tool of our destruction instead of the base of our strength as it was intended to be. Heck, uneducated or self-educated, free-thinkers might be better than the undereducated, group-thinking masses that our system is churning out now. |
Edited by - horgad on 07/31/2008 12:42:24 |
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Kurr
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 07/31/2008 : 13:26:18
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Always willing to trade copper for pm's
A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears
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Nickelless
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 07/31/2008 : 14:11:55
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Originally posted by Nickelless
Any specific articles or speeches by Ron Paul you'd recommend, Horgad?
Biography (first or he is just another voice in the wind):
http://www.house.gov/paul/bio.shtml
Inflation Tax (short and to the point):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCYZ14Ti4vc
Longer and more in depth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIbjBOtWBHg&feature=related
Finally, hit her with this if she shows some interest:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaxdUPNYj2s&feature=related
There is so much good stuff out there if you understand a few basics about money and economics, but I guess that is a big problem. Most of us including congress will swallow everything that the Feds say because it is all Greek to most of us. If Bernake sounds like he speaking Greek and Ron Paul sounds like he is speaking Greek, which Greek do the people believe? I suppose, the one that gets the most air-time wins. |
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Delawhere Jack
Penny Hoarding Member
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Posted - 07/31/2008 : 17:11:07
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Peter Schiff is frequent guest on many TV talk shows, speaking on economic issues. Back in Nov 06, he gave a speech to the Western Region Mortgage Bankers convention. It is an absolute must see. There are eight 10 minute segments, but the last two are mostly a Q&A with him and a speaker with contrary views.
In the speech, he spells out exactly what we are seeing unfold today in the financial and real estate markets. He also gives a little historical perspective on the type of debt we used to incur in the US, to build factories and such, to the mostly unproductive debt we create today.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6G3Qefbt0n4 |
"Money is the barometer of a society's virtue. When you see that trading is done, not by consent, but by compulsion...when you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing...when you see your laws don't protect you against them, but protect them against you...when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice...you may know that your society is doomed."
Ayn Rand, from Atlas Shrugged
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Bluegill
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Posted - 07/31/2008 : 17:16:43
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Peter Schiff predicted the failure of fannie and freddie, and the fed bailout almost 2 years ago.
He was Ron Paul's financial advisor when he was still a candidate.
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“I’m fully diversified. I’ve got some under the mattress, some under the floor boards, some in the backyard.”
"Give me control over a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws." – Anselm Rothschild
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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 08/01/2008 : 05:57:58
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I don't try to convince people.
Its human nature to reject ideas that contradict their current way of thinking. Further, as a defense mechanism, they get hostile to the messenger. Doesn't matter if its about the economy or something trivial like the Seinfeld episode when Jerry revealed that the low cal ice cream had lots of calories. |
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Nickelless
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 08/01/2008 : 07:33:51
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Originally posted by Lemon Thrower
I don't try to convince people.
Its human nature to reject ideas that contradict their current way of thinking. Further, as a defense mechanism, they get hostile to the messenger. Doesn't matter if its about the economy or something trivial like the Seinfeld episode when Jerry revealed that the low cal ice cream had lots of calories.
But I think the consequences are much bigger than just entertainment or the lack thereof. Can you imagine if only 20 percent of the U.S. population "gets it" and the other 240 million are rioting because they're mad as hell? That's what scares me. I can handle pretty much any hardship thrown my way (so far), but facing off against hordes of people acting on emotion and doing really stupid things as they act on that emotion should make those of us who do "get it" as eager as possible to help create conditions now that will soften the landing when the crash finally comes. I don't think fatalism is our only option. |
Why hyperinflation is inevitable...and very soon:
http://www.shadowstats.com/article/292
http://www.ChrisMartenson.com |
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Bluegill
Penny Collector Member
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Posted - 08/01/2008 : 11:28:45
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Originally posted by Lemon Thrower
I don't try to convince people.
Its human nature to reject ideas that contradict their current way of thinking. Further, as a defense mechanism, they get hostile to the messenger. Doesn't matter if its about the economy or something trivial like the Seinfeld episode when Jerry revealed that the low cal ice cream had lots of calories.
Sad but so true. 
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“I’m fully diversified. I’ve got some under the mattress, some under the floor boards, some in the backyard.”
"Give me control over a nation's money supply, and I care not who makes its laws." – Anselm Rothschild
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