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Lemon Thrower
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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 Posted - 06/20/2008 : 07:50:48
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Couple of questions about Ryedales.
What are the main differences between the Coin Artist and the Apprentice? I don't really need a counter so are there any other important differences? Are they the same speed?
Also, can these sorters do all coins or just pennies? For example, can I put quarters in and have it select the silver ones (I can dream)? Halves? Dimes? Or is nickels the largest?
How long does it take to sort 4 boxes of pennies?
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Ryedale
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USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 09:13:46
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Most questions can be answered on the Products page at www.ryedalecoin.com
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Lemon Thrower
Penny Pincher Member
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 09:56:54
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The apprentice does 18,000 coins an hour. How many does the Coin Artist do? If you start with boxes of wrapped rolls, how many can you realistically expect to sort in an hour? I guess the limiting factor would be unwrapping the coins, not the machine itself - is that correct?
I have looked at the website and other than a vague reference to a nickel shute i'm still not sure what coins other than pennies it can handle.
The coin artist has counters and is quieter. what other advantages does it have over the apprentice? |
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 10:15:32
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Originally posted by Lemon Thrower
The apprentice does 18,000 coins an hour. How many does the Coin Artist do? If you start with boxes of wrapped rolls, how many can you realistically expect to sort in an hour? I guess the limiting factor would be unwrapping the coins, not the machine itself - is that correct?
I have looked at the website and other than a vague reference to a nickel shute i'm still not sure what coins other than pennies it can handle.
The coin artist has counters and is quieter. what other advantages does it have over the apprentice?
Once you get good at unwrapping, you can, if you want, open faster than a Ryedale can sort. Depending on my mood, I either try to keep pace with the Ryedale or try to go as fast as I can. When going as fast as I can I dump the extra pennies into a bucket. Then after I am done sorting, so to speak, I put the extra pennies in the Ryedale and let it catch-up while I go off and do my own thing.
Getting through a box of pennies in under 10 minutes is pretty easy and I bet that I could do it in 7 or not counting the time where the machine is catching up to me after I am done opening rolls.
Of course that is for 1 pass. Most people do at least 2 sorts. Plus you got to add in time for a hand sort if you want to pull out all of the wheats and Canadians from your coppers.
Since I am not opening rolls, I tend to do the 2nd sort and the hand sort at the same time (the machine works on one batch while I hand sort another). The total time for all sorts which results in getting the pure 1959-1982 coppers out of a box is less than 20 minutes...
Of course, everybody does it a bit different and maybe shooting for a bit different end product, but that should give you an idea. For maximum efficiency, find a source for unsorted penny bags or figure out a way to automate your roll opening. Then you can use multiple Ryedales at once and start sorting crazy fast..
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 10:35:55
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Then all you have to do is get rid of all those zincs. 
I can open rolls faster than the sort rate of the Ryedale.. I just keep dropping them in the hopper until I get the box done. I do a single pass copper sort and after I get ahead of the Ryedale I manually sift through the zinc rejects in a tray to pluck out the Indians and older wheats before dumping the zinc in one of my counters. I can finish checking and dumping all the zinc by the time the Ryedale catches up to me at the end of the box. I was running a second copper verification sort for absolute purity of the copper mix before, but now have a second hand fed Ryedale that feeds directly off the Coin Artist for this purpose. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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horgad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
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Posted - 06/20/2008 : 11:46:55
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"but now have a second hand fed Ryedale that feeds directly off the Coin Artist for this purpose"
Congrats, I was wondering when somebody was going to do that. That should be the "next" model of Ryedale...one coin feeder and 2 comparitors. Better yet make it an add on feature to the Apprentice. That would rock... |
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Lemon Thrower
Penny Pincher Member
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 12:39:00
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
3165 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 12:43:32
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Originally posted by Lemon Thrower
can you do dimes or quarters?
Nope, but for $8k you can buy a Reis Eurosystems machine that will do that. Most of us just edge check for dimes and quarters. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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legacypac
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
877 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 21:15:18
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The Ryedale works slick for nickels though. I'm sorting for Ni and CuNi but in the US that is not the game. I'm guessing you could look for silver war nicks but it hardly seems worth the effort.
I've also been running the pennies on a nickel shoot and it works fantastic! My machine does NOT like UK pennies, so I'm thinking it will never do quarters. Dimes might work if there was ever a good reason to hunt dimes...
There was a big discussion about counters here - many feel the counters are not reliable enough to be trusted, and the machine is better bought without counters. I opted no counters and put the $100 toward a good four slot FS-4DA Royal Soveregn that will count and fill shotgun shells instead. |
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legacypac
Penny Hoarding Member
Canada
877 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 21:26:35
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I understand there is no speed differance between the Artist and Apprentice - same key parts.
How many in an hour? I can't open rolls fast enough to feed the machine yet. Therefore I'm just opening them while watching TV, then feeding the machine from a big bucket with a scoop. You might be able to slip away for a short time, but pretty soon you got to be emptying a sort box or adding more coin. Unless you are fully automated like Hoard that is. |
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Gr33nday43
Penny Pincher Member
USA
247 Posts |
Posted - 06/20/2008 : 22:51:23
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Originally posted by horgad
"but now have a second hand fed Ryedale that feeds directly off the Coin Artist for this purpose"
Congrats, I was wondering when somebody was going to do that. That should be the "next" model of Ryedale...one coin feeder and 2 comparitors. Better yet make it an add on feature to the Apprentice. That would rock...
I completely agree! It would be easier to find older date wheats and elusive ih's. |
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Lemon Thrower
Penny Pincher Member
USA
121 Posts |
Posted - 06/21/2008 : 19:05:46
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| how would a second pass make it easier to find older date wheats and IH's? Arent' they the same metal composition? |
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Kurr
Penny Collector Member
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Posted - 06/21/2008 : 20:04:25
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| if i understand it right theres a bit more tin in em. Throws em into the zinc pile when sorting copper accept. |
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AgentSmith
New Member
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 01:19:35
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| now i have this pile of coppers...what now? |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2008 : 03:31:46
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| Now you are done. You come here and post about your success on the sorting percentages thread. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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