| Author |
 Topic  |
|
aloneibreak
Penny Collector Member
USA
380 Posts |
Posted - 11/01/2009 : 22:23:24
|
| we dont need to go into any of these countries. we need to concentrate on keeping their problems out of OUR country. |
My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson
|
 |
|
|
barrytrot
Penny Collector Member
USA
410 Posts |
 Posted - 11/02/2009 : 06:35:11
|
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
Um, dude, do you even read the newspaper to see what kind of murder and mayhem the Taliban commits? I'd think that's much more offensive.
I'm not saying what they do is right. I'm saying continuing negative views towards people never helps solve anything. I don't see much of a difference between being offensive and really offensive.
I know i'm over reacting here, but a Mod should perhaps be more respectful to other groups of people.
"Humor" is almost always somewhat offensive and is still generally allowed. And the "might be a ..." is an obvious "humor" vein and not meant to be taken seriously in any way.
I've seen "might be a ..." nearly everything.
Did you also take offense at the "Realcent" version which is aimed AT YOU? If not, then you should probably ask yourself why you were offended at the other one.
People that are easily offended offend me :) Actually they don't, nothing does :) |
Edited by - barrytrot on 11/02/2009 06:39:27 |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 08:31:15
|
| Looks like i have my work cut out for me today. I'm glad people replied to this post. There's nothing better than discussing a difference of opinion, I'm all for it. But if you disagree with me, don't reduce your views by insulting me directly. |
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 09:01:24
|
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
Um, dude, do you even read the newspaper to see what kind of murder and mayhem the Taliban commits? I'd think that's much more offensive.
I'm not saying what they do is right. I'm saying continuing negative views towards people never helps solve anything. I don't see much of a difference between being offensive and really offensive.
I know i'm over reacting here, but a Mod should perhaps be more respectful to other groups of people.
Just because he, or anyone is a mod, doesn't mean they can't have a since of humor or opinion. Maybe it would make you happy if someone edited his post? More censorship make you happy as well? Gee whiz....
Deal
Deal, Having a sense of humor is wonderful. Having an opinion is also wonderful. Censorship isn't exactly what we need here. People should not post items that may require censoring by others. No one should be told they can't have this view or think that's funny. |
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 09:23:51
|
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
quote:
Originally posted by wholelottabon
back in the civil war the billy yanks were asking a captured johnny reb why he was fighting. It was clear to them that the johnny reb owned no slaves so why should he fight this rich man's war. Johnny Reb told them quite simply "cause you're down here". Do you understand johnny reb's point?
Sure, but did the Civil War have suicide bombers who purposely blew up women and children and killed anyone who wouldn't switch sides in the war?
Deal, The act of bioterrorism can range from a simple hoax to the actual use of these biological weapons, also referred to as agents. So though there may not have been any 'suicide bombers', allegations were made during the American Civil War by both sides, but especially against the Confederate Army, of the attempted use of smallpox to cause disease among enemy forces. So terrorism was present in the American Civil War. And it was present in other forms. Over 200 union officers were given court marshals for sexual assualt against civilians.
|
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
barrytrot
Penny Collector Member
USA
410 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 09:24:17
|
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
People should not post items that may require censoring by others.
Can you tell me how to figure out what "may require censoring". "may" is a pretty broad stroke. |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 09:50:19
|
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal
Fellow members:
Please be respectful to all people, even terrorists. After all, they have feelings too....
Deal
p.s. Four posts in a row, hehe.
Feel however you like Deal. In the 80's american tax dollars were funding these people, because they weren't the Soviet Union. We also did nothing to help the afghan people once the soviets were gone. Their civil war, has been partially funded by US tax dollars.
They are people, they have feelings. And they were used like pawns. Don't like them if you don't want to. I think it's wrong for any American to jab and jeer at these poor middle Eastern Nations that were used by the US for our own agenda.
|
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 10:17:44
|
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
People should not post items that may require censoring by others.
Can you tell me how to figure out what "may require censoring". "may" is a pretty broad stroke.
I guess if you're posting something you think is funny, that isn't clearly meant to bring down another group of people, go ahead. If it's offensive people are more than likley going to say something. I would hope people would say something. |
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 10:37:48
|
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
Um, dude, do you even read the newspaper to see what kind of murder and mayhem the Taliban commits? I'd think that's much more offensive.
I'm not saying what they do is right. I'm saying continuing negative views towards people never helps solve anything. I don't see much of a difference between being offensive and really offensive.
I know i'm over reacting here, but a Mod should perhaps be more respectful to other groups of people.
"Humor" is almost always somewhat offensive and is still generally allowed. And the "might be a ..." is an obvious "humor" vein and not meant to be taken seriously in any way.
I've seen "might be a ..." nearly everything.
Did you also take offense at the "Realcent" version which is aimed AT YOU? If not, then you should probably ask yourself why you were offended at the other one.
People that are easily offended offend me :) Actually they don't, nothing does :)
I did pick and choose what bothered me though I think the difference is everyone here is a realcenter, so that particular joke targets us and the comments were very light. We don't need people bringing in hate emails regardless the outside target.
It's about drawing the line.
I know i'm very much alone defending this position, but i say let's not use the Realcent forum to make jokes at another groups expense.
Sure the Taliban are an easy target. We as americans and canadians both share reasons to dislike them. Certainly no one would disagree that they are a problem.
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
|
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 10:55:38
|
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
I just got this in my e-mail and laughed my Bin Laden off:
YOU MAY BE TALIBAN IF:
6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against..
This is really just a sad thing. How you could laugh is one of the reasons i'm offended. How can you be amused knowing there is a group of people that have never known peace. If you have kids, would you want them growing up in a place like that?
|
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
barrytrot
Penny Collector Member
USA
410 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 11:03:10
|
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
Please don't group people here as "united" in any way. This forum is built by unique people that share "some" things in common but "unite" is not a theme.
By "uniting" all of the people here you are effectively saying that everyone here (other than you of course) has a view you take as "offensive". I would call that very offensive. Although nothing offends me :) |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 12:20:11
|
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
Please don't group people here as "united" in any way. This forum is built by unique people that share "some" things in common but "unite" is not a theme.
By "uniting" all of the people here you are effectively saying that everyone here (other than you of course) has a view you take as "offensive". I would call that very offensive. Although nothing offends me :)
Barry,
I think that the US & Canadia as a whole share a common stance towards the Taliban, one could even go so far as to say united. Clearly neither country is openly pro Taliban. Many countries are united in their views towards the Taliban.
So get ruffled if you must. I'm not saying anything that isn't true here.
BTW what do you have against the Canadians?
|
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
billo
Penny Pincher Member
122 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 12:47:47
|
| People absorb so much anti-US propaganda. Often by taking things out of context. The Cold War was serious, the stakes were high. Jihadists want to rule the world too. The US has messed on plenty of things, and criticism is good. But respect for every nation but your own is just as brainwashed as blind respect for your own and no one else. |
That's not a dollar, mate...THIS is a dollar.
http://www.sendcongressapinkslip.com/ |
|
|
|
barrytrot
Penny Collector Member
USA
410 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 14:22:42
|
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
Please don't group people here as "united" in any way. This forum is built by unique people that share "some" things in common but "unite" is not a theme.
By "uniting" all of the people here you are effectively saying that everyone here (other than you of course) has a view you take as "offensive". I would call that very offensive. Although nothing offends me :)
Barry,
I think that the US & Canadia as a whole share a common stance towards the Taliban, one could even go so far as to say united. Clearly neither country is openly pro Taliban. Many countries are united in their views towards the Taliban.
So get ruffled if you must. I'm not saying anything that isn't true here.
BTW what do you have against the Canadians?
I never mentioned Canada, please explain that one? (I love Canada for the record!)
And it is 100% untrue that "everyone in the US and CA share a common stance" about anything. So actually you are saying something untrue.
Also, as a side note, I am not ruffled in the slightest :) |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 15:28:45
|
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
Please don't group people here as "united" in any way. This forum is built by unique people that share "some" things in common but "unite" is not a theme.
By "uniting" all of the people here you are effectively saying that everyone here (other than you of course) has a view you take as "offensive". I would call that very offensive. Although nothing offends me :)
Barry,
I think that the US & Canadia as a whole share a common stance towards the Taliban, one could even go so far as to say united. Clearly neither country is openly pro Taliban. Many countries are united in their views towards the Taliban.
So get ruffled if you must. I'm not saying anything that isn't true here.
BTW what do you have against the Canadians?
I never mentioned Canada, please explain that one? (I love Canada for the record!)
And it is 100% untrue that "everyone in the US and CA share a common stance" about anything. So actually you are saying something untrue.
Also, as a side note, I am not ruffled in the slightest :)
So would you say the US or Canada (as a whole = as a nation) support the taliban? The canada stab was a joke.
It's actually difficult to debate anything through quotes and posts with someone.
I'm done with this debacle. I'm sticking with some people on this website share common interests, even though they are not united in any way.
|
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
Edited by - JobIII on 11/02/2009 15:31:38 |
|
|
|
NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3251 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 17:21:05
|
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
So would you say the US or Canada (as a whole = as a nation) support the taliban? The canada stab was a joke.
It's actually difficult to debate anything through quotes and posts with someone.
I'm done with this debacle. I'm sticking with some people on this website share common interests, even though they are not united in any way.
I was going to let everything slide, but this I can't. It's a shame that you can't/won't interact with others here just because of differing opinions. Differences are what makes this country a great place. The ability to have an opinion that is different from your neighbors, but also having the ability to accept their opinion as well is a freedom of it's own.
There are several people on here that I have strongly differing views on some topics, Country, Ponce, just to name a few. (Not picking on you guys in any way, hehe). That being said, I see these guys a good guys, just with differing opinions than mine. I enjoy the debates/discussions that take place between us. I don't see a reason to ever exclude them just for not seeing the same way I see things. Hell, I wouldn't hesitate to trade with them.
I don't even have a problem with you, but I guess you have a problem with me since we don't see eye-to-eye on this. Oh well....
Deal
p.s. You know your highlighted segment sounds a lot like your Talipals drivel.... |
Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.
If you want peace, prepare for war. |
|
|
|
billo
Penny Pincher Member
122 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 19:38:49
|
| Sometimes differences of opinion can be serious. You could say the Taliban has a different opinion on how people should live, ideal government, and just war. The Fed has a different opinion on how your money should be handled. Criminals have different opinions on right and wrong. |
That's not a dollar, mate...THIS is a dollar.
http://www.sendcongressapinkslip.com/ |
|
|
|
jadedragon
Administrator
Canada
2819 Posts |
|
|
kieblera5
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
788 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 21:54:15
|
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
Please don't group people here as "united" in any way. This forum is built by unique people that share "some" things in common but "unite" is not a theme.
By "uniting" all of the people here you are effectively saying that everyone here (other than you of course) has a view you take as "offensive". I would call that very offensive. Although nothing offends me :)
I'm pretty sure we're all united against Coinstar  |
Democracy is being allowed to vote for the candidate you dislike least.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you mercilessly with experience.
"Any country where the central bank head is called 'Helicopter Ben,' you better own some gold," |
|
|
|
barrytrot
Penny Collector Member
USA
410 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 22:00:20
|
quote:
Originally posted by kieblera5
I'm pretty sure we're all united against Coinstar
Definitely not. Check some recent posts in the "bullion" section. There are several that like Coinstar.
I will put it out there: No one will find a topic other that has everyone on this board "united", let alone everyone in the US/CA or even a city! |
|
|
|
kieblera5
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
788 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 22:17:25
|
quote:
Originally posted by barrytrot
quote:
Originally posted by kieblera5
I'm pretty sure we're all united against Coinstar
Definitely not. Check some recent posts in the "bullion" section. There are several that like Coinstar.
I will put it out there: No one will find a topic other that has everyone on this board "united", let alone everyone in the US/CA or even a city!
That's news to me. |
Democracy is being allowed to vote for the candidate you dislike least.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you mercilessly with experience.
"Any country where the central bank head is called 'Helicopter Ben,' you better own some gold," |
|
|
|
jonflyfish
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
551 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 22:31:26
|
Interesting to see everyone "unite" in common interest at a penny forum, yet they wonder what they have in common with each other.
|
The first panacea for a mismanaged nation is inflation of the currency; second is war. Both bring a temporary (and false) prosperity; both bring a permanent ruin. But both are the refuge of political and economic opportunities. |
|
|
|
jadedragon
Administrator
Canada
2819 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 22:48:30
|
YOU MAY BE CANADIAN IF:
1. You enjoy the warmer winters but you have a moral objection to global warming.
2. You own a $24,000 skidoo and $35,000 4X4, but you can't afford new snow shoes.
3. Your wife can't convince the 4th dentist to pick her toothpaste.
4. You're happy you just got indoor plumbing, and consider American's "weird"
5. You think vests come in two styles: hunting and life.
6. You can't think of anyone we've ever declared war against.. we just go and peace keep with underarmed solders.
7. You consider American television dangerous to our culture, but routinely watch it to keep up with JLow and TomKat.
8. You have nothing against women and think every man should love at least one immigrant one..
9. You've always had a crush on your neighbor's snowblower.
[/quote] |
"It had long since come to my attention that people of accomplishment rarely sat back and let things happen to them. They went out and happened to things." - Leonardo da Vinci
How to Hedge Against Inflation (NEW) ~~~How to Invest in Copper Bullion at A Steep Discount~~~How to Teach Your Children to Invest in Precious Metals (NEW) ~~~How to Follow Gresham's Law |
|
|
|
Nickelless
Moderator
USA
4393 Posts |
Posted - 11/02/2009 : 23:17:49
|
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
Sure the Taliban are an easy target. We as americans and canadians both share reasons to dislike them. Certainly no one would disagree that they are a problem.
But what if the joke were to target something that we weren't so united against.
Re-read the title of this thread. It's about the Taliban.
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless
I just got this in my e-mail and laughed my Bin Laden off:
YOU MAY BE TALIBAN IF:
6. You can't think of anyone you haven't declared Jihad against..
This is really just a sad thing. How you could laugh is one of the reasons i'm offended. How can you be amused knowing there is a group of people that have never known peace. If you have kids, would you want them growing up in a place like that?
Unless I decide to convert to a radical form of Islam, I don't think my kids (when I have them) will grow up in a place like that. But what do my kids (when I have them) growing up in a place like that (which they probably won't) have to do with this thread?? I'm not seeing your point.
Laughing at America's sworn enemies is as old as our republic itself, and I'm pretty sure it's a two-way street. Are you saying we should be sensitive to the feelings of groups that want to kill us?
(The photo is from the Three Stooges' movie "You Nazty Spy," in case you were wondering.)
JobIII, I'm not saying my opinion is better than yours, I'm just trying to figure out the basis for your opinion. I'm not especially fond of the Taliban because they hate personal freedom and liberty...and they kill a lot of people just for fun. If you're saying we shouldn't poke fun at the Taliban because it will hurt their feelings, then I tend to think that would hurt the feelings of the Taliban's victims. I haven't heard of many families of 9/11 victims who worry about Bin Laden's feelings. You get my point. |
Be prepared...and prepared to help: http://www.survivalblog.com/charity.html
Are you ready spiritually for hard times? http://www.posttribrapture.com |
Edited by - Nickelless on 11/02/2009 23:43:53 |
|
|
|
JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 11/04/2009 : 07:00:40
|
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal
quote:
Originally posted by JobIII
So would you say the US or Canada (as a whole = as a nation) support the taliban? The canada stab was a joke.
It's actually difficult to debate anything through quotes and posts with someone.
I'm done with this debacle. I'm sticking with some people on this website share common interests, even though they are not united in any way.
I was going to let everything slide, but this I can't. It's a shame that you can't/won't interact with others here just because of differing opinions. Differences are what makes this country a great place. The ability to have an opinion that is different from your neighbors, but also having the ability to accept their opinion as well is a freedom of it's own.
There are several people on here that I have strongly differing views on some topics, Country, Ponce, just to name a few. (Not picking on you guys in any way, hehe). That being said, I see these guys a good guys, just with differing opinions than mine. I enjoy the debates/discussions that take place between us. I don't see a reason to ever exclude them just for not seeing the same way I see things. Hell, I wouldn't hesitate to trade with them.
I don't even have a problem with you, but I guess you have a problem with me since we don't see eye-to-eye on this. Oh well....
Deal
p.s. You know your highlighted segment sounds a lot like your Talipals drivel....
Deal,
Regardless of your views. Fear not comrade, I shall not be swayed from continuing to post the good post. I also won't hesistate to continue doing business with you should something come our way.
So we see differently on an issue, this is healthy. I don't have a problem with you. The US supports discussion and non-violent beliefs on both sides of the spectrum. You like to think one way, this country mandates you except the fact there may be opposing views.
Stop attacking me directly with insults. I'm not middle eastern. I don't support the Taliban. I don't have friends who are Taliban. You're being hypocritical, when you say you have no problem with me and then make comments like these.
But like in my earlier post, I'm done with this debacle. |
Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~ |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
You may be Taliban if...
Topic Locked
