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oly1oly1
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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 Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:12:19
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I have got the ryedale sorting down pretty well. I can double sort for early wheats and indian heads with two ryedales and get zincs quickly back into $50.00 bags with a coin counter.
Now for the problem. The sorting and returning of the zinc is so efficient that I can't keep up with sorting for wheats from my copper pile. I started by pouring coppers onto table and turning them over one by one. Not bad but will never keep up with Ryedale production unless I spend all kinds of time. Next, I've tried using a box top from copy paper and shaking coins flat (kinda like gold panning) and pick wheats and canadians then put a flat piece of cardboard on top of pennies and flip (sometimes resulting in disaster- pennies flying everywhere).
Just looking for some of the techniques the pros are using out there.
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
3251 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:20:19
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Properly adjusted, your Ryedale will spit everything good; indians, wheats, dimes, foreign, etc. into the copper keep pile. Try a little more tweeking with you machine.
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oly1oly1
Penny Sorter Member
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:32:33
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I'm not having trouble with sorting on ryedale. I'm trying to speed up sorting my wheats from my 95% copper so i can keep up with the ryedale. I'm about a $1000.00 face behind on removal of wheats and canadians from my 95% copper.
I think a flipping method of about 300 -400 pennies at a time would work well, but have been thinking of design method to do this.
Also considered dumping on a glass table and looking from underside, but seems not very practical or ergonomically correct.
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slickeast
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:33:22
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Some of the techniques I have heard of but haven't tried are.
1. use a clear plastic tote. That way you can look through the bottom for wheats.
2. Make a board with a small lip around the edges. After you have looked at one side of the pennies, put a board that you cut to fit inside the lip of the other and flip. This should eliminate the pennies from flying everywhere.
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twocents
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 10/11/2009 : 10:43:01
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| I recommend using a 7-year-old. They love to sort for wheats. Their cut can be exceedingly small. |
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oly1oly1
Penny Sorter Member
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 10/11/2009 : 12:25:47
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| I have an eleven year old and her cut is extensive. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 10/11/2009 : 13:48:07
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I rememeber when I was 7 and 11.. I used to love sorting for wheats. Of course we had more copper to sort through back in those days, since all pennies were copper.
Wish I had a yougster or 2 to help sort the wheats or run the machines.. I could crank up production even more.
I used to check each copper when sorting for wheats.. but that takes too much time if you are sorting a significant amount of pennies. Here is the method I currently use. It only gives me about a 90% capture rate, but missing a few common date wheats is an acceptable loss for the time savings. I got a medium size rectangular tub at the dollar store. It has a slightly recessed area around the edge. I grab a handful of coppers out of the copper bucket and drop them in the tub. I give it a shake and tilt to spread the coppers across the bottom for easy viewing. I then pluck out the wheats and maybe turn over a few that are heads up that look like they might be wheats. I then tilt the tub to have them slide to the edge and then tilt and shake to spread the cents across the bottom again. The recessed lip and reshake tends to flip the cents over. I then pluck out the remaining wheats. If a batch seems to be heavy in wheats, then I might give it a couple of extra shake and turns since it is a target rich batch. I also pluck out my Canadians at the same time. Then just dump in your processed copper bucket for later bagging or rolling.. or if you are really efficient you dump it directly into one of your counters or automatic rolling machines and complete the processing.
olyoly had the right idea with the box top and shaking, but the high sides of the plastic tub keep the pennies from flying all over.  |
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ZigMeister
Penny Sorter Member
USA
42 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2009 : 10:00:28
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| Hoard, Do you roll or store your coppers loose? For the past 2 years I have been rolling the coppers and putting them back in the $25 boxes I get raw cents in. After seeing Nate and others selling by the pound, I've just been throwing them into any container I have. |
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jtm3
Penny Collector Member
USA
401 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2009 : 10:04:56
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I know you didn't ask me, but I like to keep mine rolled.
I prefer to know the face value over the weight since it is easy to get a pretty good estimate of weight at 120 copper pennies per pound. |
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cecropia_moth
Penny Sorter Member
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2009 : 15:03:42
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jtm3 -
Probably just a typo on your part, but a pound of US copper cents would be closer to 150 coins...real # would be 146 (453.5924 gms/lb. / 3.11 gms/cent) but would need to factor in a little "wear" on coins all 27+ years old. I would think if you used 150 as a pound, nobody would ever have a complaint.
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hobo finds
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JobIII
Penny Collector Member
USA
464 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2009 : 16:08:17
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| I'm sorting by hand and it's not all that terrible. Oly, are you using the ryedale everyday? Perhaps sort for wheats on the days you don't sort or repackage zincs. |
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oly1oly1
Penny Sorter Member
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 10/12/2009 : 16:43:15
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I've tried handsorting 95% copper but am unable to keep up. I sort with one ryedale and run zinc accepts through a second ryedale which grabs missed coppers, early wheats, and indian heads. These coins are then dumped and a quick visual before going into coin counter into $50.00 bags. All of these operations are going on simutaneously except to refill ryedales. I am looking for a quicker method that can keep up with this process (time is money). More time more sorting.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 10/12/2009 : 19:45:43
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The most efficient method is to not sort for wheats at all. The time/return for that operation does not make sense.. but some of us do it anyway. The way I do it is actually pretty fast. I am able to easily keep up. I do it simultaneously with running all the other machines.
Zig.. No I only roll some of them. It is a lot easier when you have automatic rolling machines. Most of the copper is stored loose in 1 ton bags or buckets.
I use 150 coppers per pound for estimating. I have extremely accurate scales for doing exact weights. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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misteroman
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USA
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Posted - 10/12/2009 : 23:18:20
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| Like was said on here awhile back.Sort the coppers out like crazy as there will be time for sorting the wheats out when one or two big boys get in the game and yanks all the copper out |
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TXTim
Penny Collector Member
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Posted - 10/13/2009 : 21:15:36
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I have 2 pieces of plywood connected with a piano hinge; on one side with narrow, penny thick spacers glued around 3 edges.
I dump the pennies on the board, wipe the pile flat, search the backs, close the book, flip it and search the other backs.
After the wheats are picked out I V the book and dump the rest into a bucket. Fast and foolproof. |
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twocents
Penny Pincher Member
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Posted - 10/13/2009 : 21:47:05
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Originally posted by TXTim
I have 2 pieces of plywood connected with a piano hinge; on one side with narrow, penny thick spacers glued around 3 edges.
I dump the pennies on the board, wipe the pile flat, search the backs, close the book, flip it and search the other backs.
After the wheats are picked out I V the book and dump the rest into a bucket. Fast and foolproof.
Now that is the best method I have heard. I will start constructing one now. Brilliant idea. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 10/13/2009 : 22:03:13
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| Sounds like a great system TxTim. Thanks for sharing. |
If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.
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Techniques for Sorting Wheats from Memorials
