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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  14:07:45  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've just recently been getting into copper pennies....while I would like to be able to hoard the sometime in the near future, i don't have the capital to really do that, i need to make $, Food, clothes for my kids and mortgage cost money.....so for right now the only way I can really be in the hobby and investment aspect of this is to supply some of you.....I can come up with any amount wanted and the price and shipping can be negotiated.....Like I said I'm new to this and dont have that much yet (roughly 40lbs) but if I can find a buyer I can fill orders (it might take a while as I am still a hand sorter, but I'll sort day and night if need be) Please get back to me on this!!!!!!

Zach

JobIII
Penny Collector Member



USA
464 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  15:40:05  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to Realcent! There are definitely people on this site that will be happy to buy your hand sorted copper cents. Good Luck!

Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~
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fb101
Moderator



USA
2241 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  17:00:54  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
welcome.
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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  18:57:53  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks for the welcomes...I mean it.....but what do I need to do to sell some of this stuff?....do I just place an add on the forum or what I want to establish myself as a credible member of this site so how do I go about gaining trust and building relationships....like I said I'm new to this.

Z
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Kurr
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1689 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  19:18:06  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Best bet is a 68 lb lot. Works out to about 100 dollars worth.

Shipping this amount is the best return on the shipping as there is no wasted space.

Get 100.00 worth and place an ad in the buy sell forum and negotiate your deal, you'll do fine.

Welcome to the board, brother. We all started somewhere.

Selling coppers- 1.4 + shipping or 11.00 90% Ag or 1/10th oz Au per 100.00, PM me!! ~100.00 (68lbs)Available~

Outlaw: One who is outside both the protection and benefit of the law. Since you cant sue the police for not protecting you, and congress overwhelmingly went against the people to benefit the big business on the backs of the people, congratulations we no longer have the protection or benefit of law. We're all outlaws now.

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daviscfad
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1305 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  20:05:47  Show Profile Send daviscfad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum! Have you ever sold anywhere on the net? that way people can see your feedback on other places. also some people will probably want you to ship first. I can vouch for a lot of guys on the board and i personally know a couple people here that can vouch for people i have not traded with

Inquiring minds want to know
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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  20:09:41  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
hey man thanks for the tips....I checked out ur ebay listing where is lexinton, indiana I'm assuming the southern part of the state.....I'm in Peru, 20 miles north of Kokomo. I really dont have $100 right now so I guess I'll list what I've got and take you advise on not wasting space shipping. I've also got a few Morgan Silver Dollars.....(1921-s and 1882) the 1882 is really nice, great detail...do you think its worth it to get a coin graded?....I've had success with grading in 50's and 60's Baseball cards in the past....but the market has really bottomed in cards as of late....anyways thanks agian and dont be a stranger!

Zach
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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  20:11:21  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, my father and I have sold on ebay for years......we actually still have a few things on......ebay id is Kindervision....check it out
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Bluegill
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1480 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  20:54:57  Show Profile Send Bluegill a Private Message  Reply with Quote




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fb101
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USA
2241 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  21:36:41  Show Profile Send fb101 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zseabass

hey man thanks for the tips....I checked out ur ebay listing where is lexinton, indiana I'm assuming the southern part of the state.....I'm in Peru, 20 miles north of Kokomo. I really dont have $100 right now so I guess I'll list what I've got and take you advise on not wasting space shipping. I've also got a few Morgan Silver Dollars.....(1921-s and 1882) the 1882 is really nice, great detail...do you think its worth it to get a coin graded?....I've had success with grading in 50's and 60's Baseball cards in the past....but the market has really bottomed in cards as of late....anyways thanks agian and dont be a stranger!

Zach






Doesn't seem like grading will help those. Only rare dates or high grade uncirculateds are worth grading.

I seriously suggest you wait on the selling until you have more. shipping costs make small amounts not worth it. Your potential profits get eaten up by shipping.

Also you have to get to 10 posts before you can PM and that's pretty much mandatory for selling since few post their personal info publicly. looks like you're on your way to that though.
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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/29/2009 :  22:00:20  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm really appreciative of all the advice, just curious......do you all think that the reason that most people that I have mentioned doing this to (g-ma, step-mom)have dismissed it is that the sheer numbers are too high, or that there cant be a way you could make a buck from a penny or a combination of both. To me it makes perfect cents(little play on words, thank you very much)

Z



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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
5250 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  01:07:53  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Welcome to the forum zseabass. It makes cents to a lot of us here. It is certainly not a get rich quick scheme. There is plenty of actual work involved.. but it is fun work, and can be done at your own pace, in the convenience of your own home.. till the signicant other bans you and your penny operation to the garage or basement.

The average person does not see how fractions of a cent can add up. From a time standpoint you probably might be better off saying the phrase "Would you like fries with that?" But this is easy, has some interesting challenges, and there are plenty of true believers right here on this board. There is a hoard of information here.. just free for the reading.

The beauty of this hobby is that you can play at any level. I started out as a hand sorter just like you. I was able to parlay the copper I sorted into more capital to buy more raw material with and repeat the process. Sort of like a snowball effect. After selling off a goodly amount of copper from my sorting I was able to buy a machine to help with my sorting. Production increased. I parlayed that into more machines.. improving the efficiency of the process.

There is a market for your copper pennies. It is a little soft right now, but still profitable. You are getting pretty close to having enough to ship. 50 pounds would be a good first shipment. That works out to about 3 boxes. I would be happy to buy your first shipment to help you get started. If you get new zinc pennies at any of your banks I am always looking for those.. and you don't even have to sort them.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Let me see if I understand this? If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get 12 years hard labor; the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely. If you cross the US border illegally, you get a driver’s license, a social security card, welfare, food stamps, free health care!



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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  08:39:54  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks Hoard-

I would really appreciate the help getting started......I guess I need to put on a few more posts so I can PM.....But I'm anxious to get going on this and we can work the details out whenever you are ready to discuss it. Thanks again


Z
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jadedragon
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Canada
2819 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  11:17:23  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is a nice offer from Hoard. I'm in Canada and also started handsorting, sold some Canadian Ni off, sorted more and made enough profit to buy my Ryedale Coin Artist. Then I sorted more, sold and made enough to buy a CS-10 counter. I've also amassed silver from trades here and a few silver finds in dimes, quarters and 1/2 (during trips to the US).

You will not get rich quick but you can made a good side income. Just be sure to save away some copper pennies for yourself... no one will miss a few pennies in the budget right?

"It had long since come to my attention that people of accomplishment rarely sat back and let things happen to them. They went out and happened to things." - Leonardo da Vinci
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Copper Catcher
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USA
1347 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  11:36:50  Show Profile Send Copper Catcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zseabass, Welcome to Realcent!

If you run across any wheat pennies and want to sell them I'll pay you .03 each and others will do the same.

I'm gathering some for another bag to put aside for my nephews.

I think you will find this is a friendly bunch and you will constantly learn something new! ~Enjoy~

DISCLAIMER: The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and are considered for entertainment purposes only. It is not the intent of this author to provide legal, investment or medical advice and nothing posted here should be considered to be so. You are advised to seek independent counsel to act upon any laws discussed in this communication.
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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  12:34:51  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thanks agian for all of the advise and offers to help ma get started......You all have proven thus far to more than friendly and encoraging......also I have run across 50 or so wheats but I thing I'm going to wait to get some more before I think of selling them.....thanks again!

Z
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Kurr
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1689 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  17:15:12  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bout 40 min NW of louisville here.

There are a few Indiana sorters here.

Selling coppers- 1.4 + shipping or 11.00 90% Ag or 1/10th oz Au per 100.00, PM me!! ~100.00 (68lbs)Available~

Outlaw: One who is outside both the protection and benefit of the law. Since you cant sue the police for not protecting you, and congress overwhelmingly went against the people to benefit the big business on the backs of the people, congratulations we no longer have the protection or benefit of law. We're all outlaws now.

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 09/30/2009 :  18:27:32  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
thats good to know....
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zseabass
New Member



USA
10 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  18:53:26  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hey there guys.......I've not been able to check this for a few days.....dont want you all to think that I've flaked out or anything like that....Oh yeah, Hoard I'm getting an exact count and making sure that there aren't any zincs in there at all, I'll let you know once I've counted everything.

Z
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slickeast
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1370 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  20:51:03  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
zseabass, welcome to the forum. There are a bunch of great guys...and gals on here. And there is always something new to learn. If you have any questions, just throw them out there. These guys are straight shooters and they always try to give you the best answer that they can.

Hoard is a great guy and I know that he will be more than happy to buy your coppers....he Hoards them by the ton.

You don't have to be the BEST you just have to be.......SLICK

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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
5250 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  20:58:28  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't you want you to work too hard on them. I will run them through one of my Mach 7's (4,000 CPM) to get the exact count. Then run them through one of the Ryedales for copper verification.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Let me see if I understand this? If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get 12 years hard labor; the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely. If you cross the US border illegally, you get a driver’s license, a social security card, welfare, food stamps, free health care!



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slickeast
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1370 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  21:04:58  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

I don't you want you to work too hard on them. I will run them through one of my Mach 7's (4,000 CPM) to get the exact count. Then run them through one of the Ryedales for copper verification.




wow...HCBTT, he might not want to deal with someone that is talking gibberish

If you were pulled over and said that to the cop, you would here this. " Sir, Can you please step out of the vehicle?"

You don't have to be the BEST you just have to be.......SLICK


Edited by - slickeast on 10/04/2009 21:09:10
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
5250 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2009 :  21:40:12  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Sir, why is your car sagging so much in the back?"

"Sir, would you mind opening the trunk.. so I can inspect it?"

"Sir, you weren't intending to attempt a border crossing with this, were you?"

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Let me see if I understand this? If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get 12 years hard labor; the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely. If you cross the US border illegally, you get a driver’s license, a social security card, welfare, food stamps, free health care!



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AGgressive Metal
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
789 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2009 :  01:58:37  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zseabass

thanks agian for all of the advise and offers to help ma get started......You all have proven thus far to more than friendly and encoraging......also I have run across 50 or so wheats but I thing I'm going to wait to get some more before I think of selling them.....thanks again!

Z



Great - wheats are easy to sell. You can get 3-4 cents for common dates in the 40s/50s and potentially much more for rare dates.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484

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zseabass
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USA
10 Posts

Posted - 10/06/2009 :  15:16:07  Show Profile Send zseabass a Private Message  Reply with Quote
well i need one more post till i can PM, so here it is
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JobIII
Penny Collector Member



USA
464 Posts

Posted - 10/07/2009 :  11:09:16  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by zseabass

I've just recently been getting into copper pennies....while I would like to be able to hoard the sometime in the near future, i don't have the capital to really do that, i need to make $, Food, clothes for my kids and mortgage cost money.....so for right now the only way I can really be in the hobby and investment aspect of this is to supply some of you.....I can come up with any amount wanted and the price and shipping can be negotiated.....Like I said I'm new to this and dont have that much yet (roughly 40lbs) but if I can find a buyer I can fill orders (it might take a while as I am still a hand sorter, but I'll sort day and night if need be) Please get back to me on this!!!!!!

Zach



Hi Zach,

I just wanted to reiterate what a couple other members have stated, first what people here mainly see penny bullion as either a long term investment or a non-profit hobby.

I don't want to come off as offensive, and you live no where near me so please don't think i'm worried about you depleting the copper cent supplies in circulation. Okay...

From what you've posted, it seems like you're hurting for $$, so this is my advice for a person in your situation:

If you need to make Money...Get a part-time job, it will pay better per hour spent looking for copper cents. You'll need to sort $400 dollars to find $100 dollars that you may sell for a profit of $20 dollars.

How long did it take to count your lot that Hoard was going to buy off you? You're wasting your time. It'll cost you about $600-800 to get set-up with ryedale + coin counter. Can you afford to go this far in the whole and still look through $100's pennies?

If you really meant what you said about needing to earn money for food, clothes and a mortgage. Get serious and start working anywhere you can find it, even minimum wage.

If you're not working now...Find another job

Why isn't anyone else having the gut reaction i'm having after reading his post.

The idea sounds incredibly profitable but it's not, especially for the average handsorter. So you can listen to all the people posting welcomes and good lucks, but if you are seriously in need of more money. Get a Job or a second Job, if you're married have your wife work, or have her get a second job. If the kids are in day care, see if relatives nearby can help sit some of the time.

IMHO, I would rather hear this then be misguided into a false sense of security. You'd realize it yourself after a while but that would mean time wasted not earning the money you need for your house and CHILDREN.

~JobIII

Selling Coppers 1.35 + shipping. *800.00* ~sold~
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