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slickeast
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Posted - 09/26/2009 :  08:56:30  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Are people really this bored?

Looks like they put a penny inside of a penny. It jammed the Ryedale. It is too wide.




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Edited by - slickeast on 09/26/2009 08:56:53

natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 09/26/2009 :  09:06:13  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Does it open up? Could be something like these, although it would be awfully small inside.

http://spy-coins.com/products.htm

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Country
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USA
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Posted - 09/26/2009 :  09:09:39  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Slick,

This looks like a partial broadstruck penny. Look at some of the examples in the link, especially the last one which looks like your penny.

A broadstruck coin is formed when the collar is not surrounding the planchet during the strike.

The collar should completely surrounds the reverse die to help hold the planchet in place during striking. This helps the detail form on the coin and helps form the edge of the coin. On coins with reeded edges, the reeding design is in the collar. When the metal is forced against the collar, the reeded edge is formed.

The collar floats on springs independent of the die. Thus the collar can be down or at an angle when the planchet is struck. If the collar was attached to the coinage press in a fixed position, it could result in serious damage if the die struck the planchet incorrectly.

If the collar is not in the proper position when the planchet is struck, it allows the metal to be distorted outward. If the collar is jam on one side but not the other, you will get a partial collar strike. On reeded coins, the reeding will not show completely around the coin.

If any part of the design is missing on the coin, it is not a broadstruck, it is an off center struck coin.


http://www.bakercoins.net/learn/error.ed/broadstr/index.html

Guess I was wrong. Interesting that someone would piece together a penny like that.

Edited by - Country on 09/27/2009 10:01:03
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slickeast
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USA
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Posted - 09/26/2009 :  10:13:45  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
1st...no it does not open.

2nd... it sounds funny when dropped on wood. notice the bottom of the top pic. the outer ring has a gap. the back inner penny is the size of a penny. the outer ring was stretched to fit around the inner penny.

I will attempt to take apart.

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2old
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Posted - 09/26/2009 :  12:17:19  Show Profile Send 2old a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have several hollow or "spy coins". That may be a hollow coin. The penny I have is the hollow part, I do not have the cap. I think I have about every denomination in hollow and 2 sided.
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highroller4321
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USA
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Posted - 09/26/2009 :  12:17:35  Show Profile Send highroller4321 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think its like a magicians coin. I am sure that it will open if you try hard enough. It looks damaged so it might be hard to open. I find stuff like that in halves quite often. I actually found a dime inside a penny last week.

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slickeast
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USA
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Posted - 09/27/2009 :  00:42:42  Show Profile Send slickeast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here are the pics after I removed an outer ring. That is all that it was...just an outer ring.



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natsb88
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USA
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Posted - 09/27/2009 :  09:32:42  Show Profile Send natsb88 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe it was a necklace at some point?

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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 09/27/2009 :  10:05:09  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not exactly a nice coin for a necklace. Odd.

Deal

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brian0918
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USA
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Posted - 10/16/2009 :  13:22:07  Show Profile  Send brian0918 an AOL message Send brian0918 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe Grandma had a nice 1909 S VDB necklace, and little Jimmy was handling it and accidentally lost the penny, so he stuck another one in place. Grandma's vision ain't so good so she couldn't tell the difference.

But when she did find out the truth, little Jimmy was never heard from again.

:D

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Edited by - brian0918 on 10/16/2009 13:22:43
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JobIII
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USA
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Posted - 10/19/2009 :  14:10:20  Show Profile Send JobIII a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NotABigDeal

Not exactly a nice coin for a necklace. Odd.

Deal



Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Perhaps this coin was in the pocket of a loved one that met with an untimely end or something special like that. Now don't you just feel aweful.

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billsattic
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USA
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Posted - 10/22/2009 :  10:22:00  Show Profile Send billsattic a Private Message  Reply with Quote
there should be a permanent "odd finds" discussion for finds like this. I found one 1976 penny that was hollowed out with angel stamp. 3/4 penny was gone. Another one was drilled out and filled with what appears to be steel. Another one coated at with what appearsto be mercury - 1959. Science project no doubt.
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horgad
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USA
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Posted - 10/22/2009 :  13:26:33  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That is so strange...I have seen similar but never thought to try and take one apart. I would submit your results to the forums at:

http://www.coppercoins.com/
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vrbsroma
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Posted - 10/29/2009 :  11:56:24  Show Profile Send vrbsroma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by billsattic

there should be a permanent "odd finds" discussion for finds like this. I found one 1976 penny that was hollowed out with angel stamp. 3/4 penny was gone. Another one was drilled out and filled with what appears to be steel. Another one coated at with what appearsto be mercury - 1959. Science project no doubt.



+1 for "Odds 'n' Ends" section to post weird find!

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