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merc49
Penny Sorter Member



82 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2009 :  12:56:30  Show Profile Send merc49 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i love seeing that many pennies in one place.........to bad its not in my garage.
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twocents
Penny Pincher Member



163 Posts

Posted - 08/22/2009 :  22:59:33  Show Profile Send twocents a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The video I would like to see is that of one of the heavy hitters in here, down at the IRS paying his or her entire federal income tax bill in pennies. Give them the zincolns, of course. Anyone interested?

Just my two cents!
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PennyPauper
Penny Sorter Member



USA
66 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  00:07:44  Show Profile Send PennyPauper a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twocents

The video I would like to see is that of one of the heavy hitters in here, down at the IRS paying his or her entire federal income tax bill in pennies. Give them the zincolns, of course. Anyone interested?



why not do it also twocents? imagine everyday folks paying all taxes in zinc or at least a few hundred heavy hitters,although frn's are worth..less,it could send a heavy message. like. render unto cesear... from wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Render_unto_Caesar...#Context
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barrytrot
Penny Collector Member



USA
410 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  00:48:54  Show Profile Send barrytrot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Do you honestly want to tempt the Government to mess with you?

Do you honestly think they would not potentially decide to take vengeance?

And do you honestly think you could avoid that vengeance?

Edited by - barrytrot on 08/23/2009 00:49:09
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twocents
Penny Pincher Member



163 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  08:33:20  Show Profile Send twocents a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would happily do it. I just have no chance of coming up with enough cents to do so.

Barrytrot, the IRS cannot refuse or take any such vengeance without undermining the law. Doing so would hasten the elimination of the cent. As soon as the government, itself, would show that the cent is no longer legal tender, how could it expect anyone else to continue to use it?

Just my two cents!
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barrytrot
Penny Collector Member



USA
410 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  09:32:35  Show Profile Send barrytrot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by twocents

I would happily do it. I just have no chance of coming up with enough cents to do so.

Barrytrot, the IRS cannot refuse or take any such vengeance without undermining the law. Doing so would hasten the elimination of the cent. As soon as the government, itself, would show that the cent is no longer legal tender, how could it expect anyone else to continue to use it?



#1 The Government breaks the law/Constitution EVERY day. You are wise to realize they aren't your friends and don't play by any rules other than their whim at the time.


#2 According to IRS rules to accept cash they must "count the cash CAREFULLY in the presence of the tax payer."

That alone is punishment enough if you owe more than a couple hundred dollars.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070515110502AAVinVH


#3 There are several historical examples where the Government has either refused to take cents/change or charged a surcharge to do so or clearly and arbitrarily punished! I did a quick Google search, here are a few examples:

http://www.mtas.tennessee.edu/KnowledgeBase.nsf/0/AB04FB8C07985FEC852570310052C341?OpenDocument

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1120208723965

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090812095420AA1OuHm

http://www.baristanet.com/2008/12/bloomfields_penny_problem.php



NOTE: There are a lot more examples of bad things happening to those that pay with cents.

To be fair there are some successful examples as well.


Here is a success story:
http://cashmoneylife.com/2007/08/15/pay-your-tax-bill-in-coins-and-small-bills/


Do not tempt the Government into putting you on one of the many lists they keep of people to either kill or harass.
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PreservingThePast
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
697 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  15:49:43  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen a couple of articles in the recent few weeks on Coinflation about people trying to pay for something with legal US Money and it either being refused or getting the police called on them.

Can't remember entire circumstances but one recently was a gentleman that liked to use our $2.00 bills as he felt they spoke volumes about our current situation. He was the one the police were called to come.

The most recent one, was last week, I think and it was two young girls with their mom wanting to spend their piggy banks of about $5.00 each to pay for a toy they had chosen to spend their hard saved coins on at a Target store. The cashier refused to accept their loose US coins for payment.

So...anything is possible anymore.

Edited for spelling correction. Don't get old--brains start to malfunction!

Edited by - PreservingThePast on 08/30/2009 08:33:32
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twocents
Penny Pincher Member



163 Posts

Posted - 08/23/2009 :  16:32:59  Show Profile Send twocents a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good articles, Barry. I do not wish to paint myself as being an anarchist. I just think it would be funny to see a video of someone trying. I would imagine that the serious hoarders would come to the conclusion that doing so would not be very wise. Nobody wants to be on one of those lists, labeled as a rabble-rouser.

Just my two cents!
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jtm3
Penny Collector Member



USA
401 Posts

Posted - 08/25/2009 :  17:07:28  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So Hoard, You made it out to Office Max yet?

Turn your old video game consoles (and games) into GOLD or COPPER!
Buy/Sell/Trade sub-forum

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
George Washington
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jtm3
Penny Collector Member



USA
401 Posts

Posted - 08/27/2009 :  21:55:30  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They seem to be implying they will accept up $1000 in pennies.

Thats a lot of rulers!

Turn your old video game consoles (and games) into GOLD or COPPER!
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Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
George Washington
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PreservingThePast
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
697 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  08:36:12  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Just a thought.......if this offer is still open and any of you are serious about trying to do it.

What about making a purchase of school supplies that would benefit teachers/classrooms, etc. Make the purchase, make a charitable donation for tax purposes, and claim the prize on here.

Enjoy.
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jtm3
Penny Collector Member



USA
401 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  10:53:53  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You could auction off some school supplies on the auction forum.

After all it is Realcent history!

Turn your old video game consoles (and games) into GOLD or COPPER!
Buy/Sell/Trade sub-forum

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
George Washington
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Kurr
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
1689 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  11:00:53  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message  Reply with Quote
lol, I would soooooo do this, if I had anything to buy at O.M.

Those of you who have met me understand, I don't mind making a specticle of myself or being stared at. I like funny looks, and pushing buttons.

Selling coppers- 1.4 + shipping or 11.00 90% Ag or 1/10th oz Au per 100.00, PM me!! ~100.00 (68lbs)Available~

Outlaw: One who is outside both the protection and benefit of the law. Since you cant sue the police for not protecting you, and congress overwhelmingly went against the people to benefit the big business on the backs of the people, congratulations we no longer have the protection or benefit of law. We're all outlaws now.

A number of people are educated beyond, sometimes way beyond, their intelligence. - Tenbears

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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member



USA
3251 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  12:50:59  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kurr

lol, I would soooooo do this, if I had anything to buy at O.M.

Those of you who have met me understand, I don't mind making a specticle of myself or being stared at. I like funny looks, and pushing buttons.


Pretty much how I feel about it.

Deal

Gun control is like trying to reduce drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.

If you want peace, prepare for war.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
5253 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  17:06:08  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Did a scouting trip to Office Max today. Tough to find much I want to buy there. I like PreservingThePast's suggestion about getting school suppllies and donating them. I did a big shopping trip to do that a couple of weeks ago at Wally World. They were filling up a police cruiser and making up packages for local families. I could always buy a box of crayons for every RealCent member. They were only a penny a box.. but the shipping would kill me.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Let me see if I understand this? If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get 12 years hard labor; the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely. If you cross the US border illegally, you get a driver’s license, a social security card, welfare, food stamps, free health care!



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PreservingThePast
Penny Hoarding Member



USA
697 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  18:15:31  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

Did a scouting trip to Office Max today. Tough to find much I want to buy there. I like PreservingThePast's suggestion about getting school suppllies and donating them. I did a big shopping trip to do that a couple of weeks ago at Wally World. They were filling up a police cruiser and making up packages for local families. I could always buy a box of crayons for every RealCent member. They were only a penny a box.. but the shipping would kill me.



I may be eons from the crayons and coloring book portion of my life, but I still love the smell of a brand new box of crayons!

Spending pennies to help out teachers and their classrooms would certainly garner a lot of publicity, especially if word happened to "leak out" with enough advance notice for the media to arrive. Sounds like a win/win situation to me.

From a former school volunteer/teacher's aide, tutor, etc. I say thanks for the contribution you already made to further the education of those who will be running our country when we are most at their mercy--in our declining years.



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jtm3
Penny Collector Member



USA
401 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  20:22:11  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would pay shipping my box if I get an autograph!

Turn your old video game consoles (and games) into GOLD or COPPER!
Buy/Sell/Trade sub-forum

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
George Washington
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator



USA
5253 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  20:29:47  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am thinking of sending a stack of the boxes of crayons to Nate and then whenever one of us does a deal with a member their box of crayons could ride with the coins or bullion.

If your percentages are low.. just sort more. If your percentages are high.. just sort more.

Let me see if I understand this? If you cross the North Korean border illegally, you get 12 years hard labor; the Iranian border illegally you are detained indefinitely. If you cross the US border illegally, you get a driver’s license, a social security card, welfare, food stamps, free health care!



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jtm3
Penny Collector Member



USA
401 Posts

Posted - 08/30/2009 :  20:35:05  Show Profile Send jtm3 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sounds good

Turn your old video game consoles (and games) into GOLD or COPPER!
Buy/Sell/Trade sub-forum

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth.
George Washington
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