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jadedragon
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Posted - 10/11/2009 :  21:07:09  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.baptistpress.com/BPnews.asp?ID=31388

significance of the find is that archeologists have located "scientific evidence countering the claim held by some historians that coins were not used for trade in ancient Egypt, and that this was done through barter instead."

The Al Ahram article said the coins are from many different periods, "including coins that bore special markings identifying them as being from the era of Joseph. Among these, there was one coin that had an inscription on it, and an image of a cow symbolizing Pharaoh's dream about the seven fat cows and seven lean cows ...."

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just carl
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Posted - 10/14/2009 :  10:51:43  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So do you think something would be wrong with a coin dated 1673 BC? Or even 1785 BC? Since Joseph would have been around between 1800 to 1600 BC, why not have coins dated about then?

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Country
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Posted - 10/14/2009 :  11:23:19  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The first metallic money dates back to approximately 2000-1800 BC and was made of bronze. These bronze pieces which traded based on weight, were often formed into the shape of cattle, which again were used prior to the general acceptance of metals as a valuable commodity. The primary reason behind the origins of coinage is a matter open for debate. One school of thought is that the first coins were struck for religious reasons.

Another suggests that they were made solely in order to help facilitate trade. Still another theory promotes the idea that man began making coins strictly for accounting and administrative reasons.


These types of early coins rarely can be attributed to a specific date, but rather a time period based on archeological relic evidence, usually pottery shards. In many cases, rulers and religions long lost in time.

http://www.coin-gallery.com/cgearlycoins.htm
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just carl
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Posted - 10/23/2009 :  09:03:28  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Nice possible information on the history of coins. However, remember that this is based on coinage found. Meaning that although the ones found have no dates they are dated based on a lot of possibilities. Note the APPROXIMATE DATE. And even that is a pure guess. Also, note that the items mentioned are made of Bronze. Any coinage made prior to that may well have been made of more easily made substances like wood, which over a period of time would have rotted away.
However, that is the good and the bad of the internet. Some stories are just that, stories and others are very educational.

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Gresham
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Posted - 10/23/2009 :  10:47:06  Show Profile Send Gresham a Private Message  Reply with Quote
My guess is that most silver circulated as cast "idols" instead of coins. You could still weigh them and do the Archimedes test for density.
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just carl
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Posted - 10/26/2009 :  14:33:01  Show Profile Send just carl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
My guess is that most silver circulated as cast "idols" instead of coins. You could still weigh them and do the Archimedes test for density.

Your right of course. And I'm sure they could have taken such idols to the Fermi Nuclear Plant for age testing back then also. So shy not just have the USMint make those idols back then. I thought we were discussing about 1800BC or earlier.

Carl
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