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barrytrot
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USA
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  08:04:43  Show Profile Send barrytrot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For each of the metals, what volume constitutes a hoard?

For copper: Is it 1 ton. $10,000 face? Higher? Lower?
- My answer: 1 Ton

For US nickel: Is it $10,000 face? Is it 1 ton of nickel? Higher? Lower?
- My answer: $5,000 face (essentially a little more in face value than the cents)

For CA nickel: Is it 1 ton (which is $10,000 face. Thank you Canada for nicely weighted coinage!) Higher? Lower?
- My answer: $5,000 face

For US 90% Silver: Is it $100 face? $1,000 face? $10,000 face? Higher? Lower?
- My answer: $2,000 face ($1,000 face bags are sold/traded every day, so owning just *one* can't be a hoard!)

For US 40% Silver: $1,000 face? $10,000 face? Higher? Lower?
- My answer: $2,000 face

For CA 80% silver: $1,000 face? $10,000 face? Higher? Lower?
- My answer: $2,000 face

For Gold: 1 pound? 10 pounds? Higher? Lower?
- My answer: 2 pounds

Country
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USA
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  08:43:18  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Copper - 1 Ton seems about right for a hoard. That's over 100 $25 boxes.

Silver - 10,000+ TOZ in silver (rounds and/or bars) or 10+ $1000 (80% or 90%) bags or 20+ $1000 40% bags seems right for a hoard.

Gold - 10+ kilo bars (22 pounds) or equivalent in AGEs/Maples and/or other coins/bars seems right for a hoard. You gotta be rich (or steal it from a leprachan's pot of GOLD) to have a hoard of GOLD.

Edited by - Country on 10/31/2009 09:01:59
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beauanderos
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USA
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  11:23:46  Show Profile Send beauanderos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You've gotta be rich... and you'll stay rich if TSHTF with a gold hoard like that. Got my silver and gold where I want em, now I'm getting started with CU. What about platinum and palladium?

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Country
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USA
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  11:38:51  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message  Reply with Quote
During the SHTF scenario, I believe you will have the copper and nickle (maybe lead), the real money, for the small change transactions. Have a hoard of either and you'll do just fine.

Palladium and Platinum are less recognizable. I think they look too much like SILVER and will not get you true value during the SHTF scenario. They are sort of extras for your hoards.

I'd stick with GOLD and SILVER for your store of wealth. Copper and/or nickle will be your spending money.
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Dalsuh
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USA
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  15:57:25  Show Profile Send Dalsuh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I even hold on to my clad quarters now, better than paper still.
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theo
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USA
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Posted - 10/31/2009 :  16:58:12  Show Profile Send theo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dalsuh

I even hold on to my clad quarters now, better than paper still.



I used to do that as well, but now I'm turning my quarters and dimes in for pennies and nickels. You get more metal for less money.
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City38
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  13:08:26  Show Profile Send City38 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would like to call my little stash a hoard, but I know its not. Just a pile. I agree with the 1 ton copper and the 10 kilo gold. I think 2k silver is a good goal for anybody. But as stated on the forum by others, any PMs will help. I feel sorry for the masses...
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MichaelOnion
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USA
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  17:33:31  Show Profile Send MichaelOnion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What about the people who are hoarding cash? What amount of physical frns is a cash hoard? 20k, 30k, 40k?


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aloneibreak
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USA
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Posted - 11/01/2009 :  18:09:53  Show Profile Send aloneibreak a Private Message  Reply with Quote
i hope no one here has a hoard of FRN's. i can see having a couple months or so expenses in cash just in case, but in my opinion 20,30, or 40 k should be put into coin or pm's if you want to hold it for a reserve.




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barrytrot
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USA
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  12:16:43  Show Profile Send barrytrot a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by aloneibreak

i hope no one here has a hoard of FRN's. i can see having a couple months or so expenses in cash just in case, but in my opinion 20,30, or 40 k should be put into coin or pm's if you want to hold it for a reserve.


Maybe if you sorted the FRN's and only kept the "star notes" or something. At least that way you have the numismatic value as well ;)
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Coinage
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Canada
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  22:47:32  Show Profile Send Coinage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
is this a horde?





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    Dalsuh
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    USA
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    Posted - 11/02/2009 :  23:31:39  Show Profile Send Dalsuh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    Nice stash coinage.
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    NotABigDeal
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    USA
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    Posted - 11/03/2009 :  06:10:40  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by Dalsuh

    Nice stash coinage.


    That would not be him. It's Ken Griffey Jr., a baseball player. Picture is from a practical joke some team members played on him or something like that.

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    dakota1955
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    Posted - 11/03/2009 :  08:01:10  Show Profile  Send dakota1955 a Yahoo! Message Send dakota1955 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    Those numbers are a great place to start and I still have a way to go to reach the hoard level.
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    Country
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    USA
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    Posted - 11/03/2009 :  08:13:46  Show Profile Send Country a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    quote:
    Originally posted by Coinage

    is this a horde?



    Nope. That's only 1/3 of a ton. Gotta have a ton to qualify.
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    Dumpster Diver
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    USA
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    Posted - 11/03/2009 :  08:34:52  Show Profile Send Dumpster Diver a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    I'm guessing Fogg lost a bet to Griffey...wonder if he'd let one of us sort those.

    My grandfather used to bet on presidential elections with a buddy. He lost the bet in '76 and got a bucket of elephant dung at the circus and using gloves mixed in $50 worth of pennies. He then wrapped it and shipped it over.

    "You're not really gonna throw that out...are you"?
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    Coinage
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    Canada
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    Posted - 11/03/2009 :  23:12:06  Show Profile Send Coinage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    yeah, that's Griffey... I just thought that was a funny pic.


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    Ponce
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    Posted - 11/06/2009 :  00:50:23  Show Profile Send Ponce a Private Message  Reply with Quote
    Well, I do have the pennies, nickels, dimes, quarters, 999 silver and Maple Leaf......I think that I am ready.

    "If you don't hold it, you don't own it"...Ponce
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