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Nickelless
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Posted - 12/18/2008 :  01:41:25  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
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Global economic collapse that could leave billions of people without access to adequate medical care for a year or longer is a terrifying specter on the horizon, say experts - but you can protect yourself from a health disaster with an inexpensive medical survival kit that includes the items we recommend below:

1. Five or more gallons of fresh distilled water, bottled, for flushing wounds and other sterile purposes in emergencies.

2. Bandages, gauze, sharp scissors, tweezers, throw-away scalpels, disposable gloves, adhesive bandages, needle and sterile thread and other rudimentary medical and surgical tools.

3. Several bottles of rubbing alcohol.

4. A year’s supply of aspirin or any other pain reliever of your choosing, prescription if you can get it, over-the-counter if you can’t. Herbal stress relievers such as Rescue Remedy and no-stress capsules can help with anxiety generally, as related to the economic crash, and specifically as related to trauma or injury.

5. Several 8-oz. bottles of colloidal nano-silver liquids that can be used in lieu of or in addition to prescription antibiotics for dental and systemic infections. Potent trace-mineral “wound sprays“ derived from purified sea salts have a long shelf-life and will come in handy for direct application as needed.

6. A supply of anti-bacterial, immune-supporting herbs to defend against bacterial outbreaks and epidemics or, if it should happen, a terror attack against the U.S. For sheer affordability, as we gave judged in our long experience with herbals, Carnivora Venus Flytrap Extract and high-powered, guaranteed-potency Cat’s Claw products are excellent choices.

7. A supply of any good anti-viral formulation that contains licorice root, goldenseal root extract, and St. John’s wort extract for additional support against viral outbreaks.

Many people already have these herbs on their medicine shelf already. Survivalists, for example. almost certainly have them stashed away, as do herbalists and people who prefer natural medications over synthetic pharmaceuticals.

8. Toilet paper - and lots of it. Not necessarily a medical need, but important for people who are used to it. Considered a joke by some. survivalists have long made it clear that TP, like ammunition for guns, will become extraordinarily valuable during an economic meltdown.

The Department of Homeland Security and other authorities include the items below for the most comprehensive possible kit to meet any emergency:

Dressings (sterile, applied directly to wound)
Pads:
Sterile eye pads
Sterile gauze pads
Sterile non-adherent pads
Burn dressing (sterile pad soaked in a cooling gel)

Bandages
Gauze roller bandages - absorbent, breathable, and often elastic
Elastic bandages - used for sprains, and pressure bandages
Adhesive, elastic roller bandages - very effective pressure bandages or durable, waterproof bandaging
Triangular bandages - used as slings, tourniquets, to tie splints, and many other uses
Adhesive bandages (band-aids, sticking plasters)
Straight adhesive bandages
Moleskin— for blister treatment
Butterfly (knuckle) bandages and wound closure strips

Instruments
Adhesive tape, hypoallergenic
Trauma shears, for cutting clothing and general use
Tweezers
Lighter, for sterilizing tweezers or pliers etc
20-cc syringe with catheter tip for wound irrigation with sterile saline solution
Rubber suction bulb, for clearing the airway of an unconscious patient

Equipment
Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)
Gloves, disposable non-latex
CPR mask or other breathing barrier such as a face shield
Scissors
Eye cup or small plastic cup
Torch (also known as a flashlight)
Instant-acting chemical cold packs
Sterile eye wash (commonly saline)
Sterile saline (used for cleaning wounds where clean tap water is not available, but note that even clean tap water should be converted to normal saline by adding salt)
Swabs, sterile non-woven
Space blanket (lightweight plastic foil blanket, also known as “emergency blanket”)
Alcohol rub (hand sanitizer) or antiseptic hand wipes
Thermometer
Penlight

Medication
Antiseptics/antimicrobial:
--Povidone iodine wipes (use for first-aid disputed)
--Benzalkonium Chloride (use for first-aid disputed)
Alcohol pads - used to prep unbroken skin for injections etc. or to disinfect equipment such as thermometers.
Antibiotic pills (use for first-aid disputed)
Antibiotic ointment - single, double, or triple antibiotic ointment in petroleum jelly base (use for first-aid disputed)
Antiseptic/anesthetic ointment, fluid or spray, for example Lidocaine
Anti-fungal cream
Anti-itch ointment:
--Hydrocortisone cream
--Calamine lotion
Painkillers / fever reducers:
--Acetaminophen
--Ibuprofen - anti-inflammatory, often more effective than acetaminophen.
--Naproxen/Aleve - another over-the-counter anti-inflammatory
--Aspirin
Anti diarrhea medication such as Loperamide Immodium
Oral rehydration salt
Antihistamine:
--diphenhydramine (brand name Benadryl)
Aloe vera gel - used for a wide variety of skin problems, including burns, sunburns, itching, and dry skin; used as a substitute for triple-antibiotic gel to keep a wound moist and prevent bandages from sticking
Burn gel - a water-based gel that acts as a cooling agent and often includes a mild anesthetic such as lidocaine and, sometimes, an antiseptic such as tea tree oil
Epinephrine auto-injector (brand name Epipen) - often included in kits for wilderness use and in places such as summer camps, to treat anaphylactic shock.
Poison treatments
Activated charcoal
Syrup of ipecac
QuikClot is a hemostatic agent sometimes included in first aid kits, especially military kits, to control severe bleeding.
Tincture of benzoin— improves tape adhesion to skin, toughens cracked skin.


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Posted - 12/18/2008 :  14:18:16  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
Excellent post brother nickelless!! I see it mentions quite a few items of homeopathic and herbal natures. For anyone interested I do wild crafting some in the spring, summer, fall as I can. We gather ginseng, blood root, yellow root, may apple, etc. Things like mullein are native here and good for congestion and respiratory ailments if I remember right. I do sell, but have just a bit of yellow root at the moment.


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He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
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moboman
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Posted - 12/18/2008 :  23:20:30  Show Profile Send moboman a Private Message
All this herbal stuff sounds borderline illegal.

Also, can you even get straight saline anymore? It seems like all contact solution has cleaners and stuff added.


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Posted - 12/19/2008 :  01:35:32  Show Profile  Send Neckro an AOL message  Click to see Neckro's MSN Messenger address  Send Neckro a Yahoo! Message Send Neckro a Private Message
Well, at least they're not talking about building a methlab

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Nickelless
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Posted - 12/19/2008 :  05:16:53  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by moboman

All this herbal stuff sounds borderline illegal.

Also, can you even get straight saline anymore? It seems like all contact solution has cleaners and stuff added.



Actually, Moboman, there are quite a few (legal) herbal remedies out there for all kinds of ailments. I take arnica tablets to help with pain from fibromyalgia and nux vomica tablets for migraines. Check it out:

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PreservingThePast
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Posted - 12/19/2008 :  14:42:47  Show Profile Send PreservingThePast a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by moboman

All this herbal stuff sounds borderline illegal.

Also, can you even get straight saline anymore? It seems like all contact solution has cleaners and stuff added.





When my husband was discharged from hospital earlier this year I could not find saline. Then finally located it at one pharmacy behind the counter--it was too pricey for me to buy. I told the home nurse and she supplied a couple of small bottles of it for me but once it is opened it must be refrigerated and then it must be discarded after just one week. Perhaps distrilled water would work just as well.
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Nickelless
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Posted - 01/12/2009 :  05:30:46  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
OK, as I was trying to figure out where my tube of Carmex is, as my lips have been very chapped with this cold weather, I thought I'd suggest that an ample supply of lip balm and other such petrolatum-type products be added to this list.


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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 01/12/2009 :  13:42:31  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
i recommend vitamin D in 50,000 size pills when you begin to feel ill. its a wonderful immunity booster.

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Posted - 01/12/2009 :  14:37:23  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
9. Dental cleaning tools are cheap. They sell them on E-Bay for under $5.00 for your "pets". Cleaning scale regularly off your teeth will save you alot of trouble and it is not rocket science. Also a good supply of the basics....toothbrushes...toothpaste...dental floss...and a pair of vice grips when all else fails.

Also, I would make getting a hold of some real prescription anti-biotics a priority. Some countries do not require a prescription and some doctors prescribe anti-biotics for the common cold. A round of anti-biotics will save a life under many circumstances....
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Nickelless
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  19:17:18  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Anyone know where to get silver wire to make colloidal silver?



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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  19:45:05  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by horgad

9.

Also, I would make getting a hold of some real prescription anti-biotics a priority. Some countries do not require a prescription and some doctors prescribe anti-biotics for the common cold. A round of anti-biotics will save a life under many circumstances....



Dentist too will prescribe antibiotics if you say that you have a suspected mitral value prolapse. I avoid antibiotics like the plague, but if you really need them you really need them.

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Kurr
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  19:47:54  Show Profile Send Kurr a Private Message
I have .999 silver grain you could make into wire, I suppose.


The silver [is] mine, and the gold [is] mine, saith the LORD of hosts. Hag 2:8 [/b]
He created it. He controls it. He gave it to us for His use. Why did we turn from sound scriptural currency that PROTECTS us?

KJV Bible w/ Strong's Concordance: http://www.blueletterbible.org/
The book of The Hundreds: http://www.land.netonecom.net/tlp/ref/boh/bookOfTheHundreds_v4.1.pdf
The Two Republics: http://www.whitehorsemedia.com/docs/THE_TWO_REPUBLICS.pdf
Good reading: http://ecclesia.org/truth/government.html

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Nickelless
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Posted - 01/24/2009 :  19:50:42  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
I didn't even think about that, Kurr. I might get a bag of silver shot from APMEX for that purpose. Thanks for mentioning that.


What ratio of silver to distilled water should be used in making colloidal silver?



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horgad
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Posted - 02/02/2009 :  14:11:34  Show Profile Send horgad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

I didn't even think about that, Kurr. I might get a bag of silver shot from APMEX for that purpose. Thanks for mentioning that.


What ratio of silver to distilled water should be used in making colloidal silver?





Have you seen this guy? I bet that he could give a good recipe

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Though seriously, I have no opinion on colloidal silver as I am underinformed on the subject.

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Lemon Thrower
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Posted - 02/03/2009 :  05:35:41  Show Profile Send Lemon Thrower a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by moboman

All this herbal stuff sounds borderline illegal.


it used to be a free country. why should any of this be illegal?

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Nickelless
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  22:29:48  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Lemon Thrower

i recommend vitamin D in 50,000 size pills when you begin to feel ill. its a wonderful immunity booster.

Sunlight doesn't require supplements. What's the toxicity level for Vitamin D supplements? 50,000 IU sounds high.


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Nickelless
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Posted - 05/16/2009 :  01:06:55  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Here's a thread about stocking up on prescription medications:

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Nickelless
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Posted - 05/20/2009 :  04:59:35  Show Profile Send Nickelless a Private Message
Here's another very thorough thread on stocking up on medications:

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Three Letters Re: Stocking Up on Prescription Medicines


Jim,
In regards to stocking up on prescription medicine your readers may want to use the book "Wilderness Medicine" by William Forgey, M.D. as a good starting point. A couple of other "beginner books" are "Where There Is No Doctor" by David Werner and "Where There Is No Dentist" by Murray Dickson. Amazon.com is running a special on all three books for $42. [JWR Adds: The latter two books are available for free download, but I recommend getting hard copies for your survival reference library.]

I took the book "Wilderness Medicine", to my doctor's office and discussed the list of medicines Dr. Forgey recommends and my doctor advised it was a very good reference. Our doctor advised a lot of the medicines listed were included in his supplies that he keeps at home.

Included in the book is some information on multiple uses of the medicines as well as alternatives if you run out of one of them.

My doctor also recommended the following prescriptions: Cipro, Tamiflu, and Relenza.

We had to search for a preparedness minded doctor but they are out there if you seek them out. Thanks, - Art



Mr. Rawles,
In response to Bryan’s request for a list of medications that may be worth adding to your preps, the following is my humble reply. I am a pharmacist, of the clinical variety (the kind that works in hospitals and clinics helping docs manage acute drug therapy, as opposed to the community pharmacists, who dispense drugs and valuable information to the public) with 27 years of hospital pharmacy experience. Please don’t think that my recommendations are the “gospel truth”. This e-mail is off the top of my head, and I’m sure many others will add to, or detract from, my suggestions. If there’s one thing I’ve learned over the course of my career, it’s that there are very few definitive answers to medical questions.

Now, it should go without saying (but I’ll say it anyway) that these recommendations are in no way meant to suggest that you should self-medicate under normal circumstances. The safe and effective use of medications is a risk:benefit game, best assessed by your doctor. No drug is absolutely safe, and the proper diagnosis of illness and treatment with medications is an endeavor that consumes lifetimes of study. Having said that, in a TEOTWAWKI situation, the risk:benefit equation shifts, and sometimes the risk of doing nothing will exceed the risk of using some drugs without the oversight of a physician.

To get started, as my good buddy and I always say, “you must define your goal before you can hope to decide on the appropriate action”. So here’s the goal: suggest some commonly available drugs (prescription and over-the-counter (OTC)) which could be stored in preparation for foreseeable calamities in an extended SHTF or TEOTWAWKI situation – either for self-medication, or for selection by a “country doctor” who has the knowledge, but not the drugs. I will focus on drugs that may have a chance of making a difference in acute situations without heroic measure beyond the ken of most non-medical folks; that is, no designer drugs for the syndrome of the week will be included. Also, I will stick to generically-available drugs in order to seek cost feasibility. I will avoid “controlled substances” (those federally regulated by the DEA) – a difficult obstacle when it comes to pain management, because we must exclude all of the opiates. Also, though I use mostly intravenous medications in the hospital, this list focuses on oral medications, for obvious reasons. Finally, in TEOTWAWKI, we will simply have to accept that certain conditions lead to shorter life spans, so drugs for the treatment of chronic diseases are not included. Nutrition, trauma, infection are about all we can hope to impact – and surgery is more important than drugs in trauma. Those with diabetes, severe hypertension, heart disease, and other all-too-common chronic maladies will have to wing it….not to say that it isn’t a good idea to have several months of your specific medications on hand to get through a temporary interruption in our normal flow of life.

I will resist the urge to get into details about bacterial resistance patterns, differential diagnosis, viral vs. bacterial infection, dosing, duration of therapy, etc. It would be much better to chat with your local medical person about the specifics. These are just the very basics – I’m sure a rational argument could be made for almost any drug.

ANTIBIOTICS – the breakthrough that promoted chronic diseases and cars to the top of the mortality list

Ciprofloxacin (common brand name: Cipro) – usually dosed 500 mg twice daily, this wonder drug covers a broad spectrum of pathogens, and is reasonably effective in treatment of urinary tract infections, pulmonary infections, skin infections, and gut infections. Bonus: can treat or prevent pulmonary anthrax infection, prophylaxis against bacterial meningitis, and has a fighting chance against gonorrhea. Sold by prescription only.
Cephalexin (common brand name: Keflex) –usually dosed 250-500 mg every six hours. A reasonable choice for upper respiratory (ear, nose, throat) infections and skin infections, including prevention of infections secondary to lacerations. Small risk of problems in folks with severe penicillin allergy. Sold by prescription only.
Metronidazole (common brand name: Flagyl) – usually dosed 250-500 mg every six hours – This oft-overlooked drug has good activity against the class of bacteria called “anaerobes”, and is useful in treatment of diverticulitis, some gynecological infections, and would be a welcome addition to cephalexin in the event that a “home appendectomy” is to be tried on the kitchen table (just kidding…sort of). This drug can also treat (or cause…go figure) a severe, and oft-fatal type of diarrhea, called Clostridium difficile colitis (aka, pseudomembranous colitis). Don’t mix alcohol with this one! But then, who will have booze in TEOTWAWKI anyway? (no offense to the home distillers out there!). Sold by prescription only.
Amoxicillin (common brand name: Amoxil) – usually dosed 500 mg every eight hours – Good for ear, throat, urinary tract, and some soft tissue infections. If started immediately, may prevent bad infections secondary to animal bites, including humans, but if the infection has already begun, bigger guns are usually needed (different bacteria are problematic with various species, but we’re talking generalities here). Bacterial resistance has cut into the effectiveness of amoxicillin over the last 20 years, but it would sure be better than nothing, especially in a more rural setting (the nastiest bugs always hang out in crowds!). Sold by prescription only.

Other possible generically-available antibiotic candidates include good ole penicillin (G or VK), ampicillin, amoxicillin/clavulanate (common brand name: Augmentin), sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim (common brand name: Bactrim or Septra – a “sulfa drug”), and doxycycline (common BN: Vibramycin)

ANTIFUNGALS – just one
Fluconazole (common brand name: Diflucan) – About the only reason to have this on hand is for vaginal candidiasis. (Ladies, you can probably diagnose that one as well as your doc!). Other uses would be difficult to diagnose at home. A single 150 mg tablet shows very good efficacy in this indication – but I suspect that the 200 mg tabs would be cheaper to obtain in quantity, since the 150 mg tablet is individually packaged for the indication. In this scenario, an extra 50 mg won’t hurt. Perhaps one of my community pharmacist colleagues could confirm or deny my suspicion. Sold by prescription only.

VITAMINS – much more important when on survival rations!
Multiple Vitamins – get several of the biggest bottles of a generic multi-vitamin that you can find at the warehouse club. If you’re eating white rice three times a day, a vitamin a day (or even three times a week) may dramatically extend your chances of survival. OTC
Vitamin C (ascorbic acid) – Very good to have around when citrus and greens are not available…remember scurvy? (Though I hear you could eat a pine tree). A couple of big bottles of Vitamin C 500 mg could stave off scurvy for your family for quite a while. A quarter of a tab a day would be sufficient, probably less (Dietitians should fill in the details here). OTC
Vitamin D – If you’re expecting a nuclear winter, you’ll need this in the absence of sun…but then again, after reading [Cormac McCarthy's novel] “The Road”, I’m not sure I would want to stick around for that one! OTC

ALLERGY DRUGS
Antihistamines – Of course, seasonal allergies will have to be tolerated, but it wouldn’t hurt to have some diphenhydramine (common brand name: Benadryl) on hand for particularly bad cases of poison oak and bad (but not anaphylactic) bee stings, etc. Available OTC
Corticosteroids – Along the same lines as above, perhaps a few methyprednisolone dose packs (common brand name: Medrol Dospak) would be good for more serious allergic reactions. Sold by prescription only.
Epinephrine – Though I promised to “stay oral”, I must mention Epi, because it is probably the only thing that may save someone experiencing a bona fide anaphylactic allergic reaction (tongue swells, throat closes down…can’t breathe). The injectable form in ampoules (1mg/ml) is much cheaper, but the Epi-Pen product is a pre-filled syringe that is ready to go. Sold by prescription only.

ANALGESICS (pain control)
Ibuprofen (common brand names: Motrin, Advil) – Pretty good for what ails you, since we’re not talking about narcotics. Strengths are headache, bone pain, tooth pain, and general sprains/strains. It’s a good anti-inflammatory (unlike acetaminophen) and will bring a high fever down. Available OTC
Aspirin – Still good for headaches and fever (except in children--do a web search on Reyes Syndrome), but beware the enhanced risk of bleeding if used for pain secondary to traumatic injury. Though ibuprofen theoretically can cause a similar problem, it’s much rarer than with aspirin. Bonus: Though heart attack mortality will undoubtedly go back up to early 20th century levels in TEOTWAWKI, a chewed aspirin tablet (325mg) at onset of chest pain may improve your odds in the absence of any other medical intervention. If an old bottle of aspirin smells strongly of vinegar, it is probably kaput…but it wouldn’t hurt you to try it.
Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen (Common brand names: Vicodin, Lortab, Lorcet, etc.) – I said I wouldn’t include controlled substances, so this one is not included….but just so you know, this combination of an opiate and acetaminophen (Tylenol) is probably the minimum analgesic intervention that would help much with traumatic visceral pain. But the laws involved and the risk of misuse complicate the issue greatly. Be sure you’re not putting yourself at legal risk before deciding to get prescriptions for this, or the more strictly controlled analgesics such as oxycodone/acetaminophen (Percocet), morphine, meperidine (Demerol), and others.

GASTROINTESTINAL MEDS – “Keep it movin’ – slow it down”
Soluble Fiber (common brand names: Metamucil, Citrucel, Fibercon) – May be essential to keep things moving in the early days of survival rations (though, as it is oft pointed out on this blog, eat what you store and the transition will be much smoother). Available OTC
Docusate Sodium (common brand name: Colace) – stool softener…’nuff said
Loperamide (common brand name: Imodium) – this antidiarrheal could save a life, but be sure to study up on when, and when not, to use it. In bacterial enteritis it may do more harm than good. Available OTC, though if you have a pharmacist friend, they may be able to order a bottle of the caps much cheaper than the OTC boxes.

TOPICALS – Cuts, burns, and scrapes
Antibiotic Ointment (“triple” bacitracin/neomycin/polymyxin or “double” bacitracin/polymyxin) Good to reduce the risk of infection in minor cuts and scrapes. Many folks suffer a contact dermatitis when exposed to neomycin, so many docs are recommending the double formula these days (common brand name: Polysporin).
Silver Sulfadiazine cream (common brand names: Silvadene, Thermazine) – A lifesaver in severe burns, but you’ll need a big jar of it.
Eye Wash – It’s basically just sterile salt water, but good to have when you need it!

Obviously, this is a starter list. I will apologize in advance for the glaring omissions that I’m sure friends and colleagues will point out.
A word on stability – as we’ve discussed on this blog before, the manufacturer’s expiration date has been found to have quite a bit of wiggle room by our Department of Defense, that has, commendably, conducted their own degradation studies in order to extend the shelf life of the military drug stockpile, and thus save us poor taxpayers a buck or two. For obvious reasons, this [Shelf Life Extension System (SLES)] data is closely guarded, so we don’t know the specifics. A few details have leaked out, and it seems that most drugs are “good” (meaning within a reasonable range of their original potency – usually 90%) for years beyond the labeled expiration date when stored appropriately. For most tablets and capsules, cooler, darker, and dryer is better (low oxygen is also good). I would suggest that you ask your pharmacist to add the manufacturer’s expiration date to your pill bottle for a frame of reference. Many pharmacy computer systems default to one year from the fill date on the prescription label, irrespective of the actual date on the stock bottle. The bottom line is this: the drugs on this list (with the possible exception of doxycycline) do not degrade to a toxic compound; they only loose potency over time. If you refer to Mr. Rawles’ excellent novel, "Patriots" , you will note how the characters titrated the dose up to allow for potency loss post-expiration date. When to do this, and by how much is a crap shoot, but in TEOTWAWKI it is better to have tried and lost, than never to have tried at all!

Here’s hoping and praying that we all die in our beds at 101 years of age, with our wives (or husbands) lilting voice in our ear, saying, “I told you that you were wasting money on all that survival stuff!!!” Regards, - SH in Georgia



Mr Rawles,
I'm a retail pharmacist working in Louisiana and am new to prepping. Many of my patients come to me asking for advice on low cost medications that will still yield positive outcomes. As a result I've gained valuable insight into the potential for stockpiling medications on a budget. I hope this helps:

Stockpiling mediations for WTSHTF can be a daunting task, even for those with an idea of their current medicinal needs. For those currently taking prescription medication, the question is usually affordability and accessibility. Most insurance plans will not pay for supplies larger than 90 days, and paying cash for prescriptions is usually cost prohibitive. While greater accessibility exists in countries such as Mexico or Canada, crossing the border with large quantities of medication is usually asking for trouble, thus requiring multiple trips. And while the lower costs of medications outside of the US has been frequently touted, quality can be suspect. Internet pharmacies in places such as India or even China will ship to your front door, but only after paying a "doctor" for your required by law "consultation", usually costing anywhere from 75 to 125 dollars. So what are the options?

There is a two fold strategy regarding lowering your drug cost to allow for cost efficient stockpiling. First, talk with your doctor or pharmacist about generic medications. Generics save as much as 80% over their brand name equivalent, are covered on every insurance plan, and because of the cost will allow for bulk purchases. A prescription is good for one year from the date it is written, so unless the medication is a controlled substance, you may purchase as much as a years worth of medication at a time(provided your doctor has authorized that many refills). Second, for those taking multiple medications, talk to your doctor and pharmacist about decreasing the number of medications you are taking by increasing the dose of others or changing the medications altogether. This strategy can best be illustrated in the following example:

Patient "X" is a 55 year old Type II (non-insulin dependent) diabetic with a history of coronary artery disease. His current medications are as follows:
Drug Condition Cost/month
Actos 30 mg diabetes $240
Zetia 10 mg cholesterol $110
Plavix blood thinner $170
Cardizem LA 240 blood pressure $125
Total medication cost/ month= $645
After consulting with his doctor and pharmacist, the following changes were made:
Drug Condition Cost/month
Metformin 500 mg diabetes $4-$10
Simvastatin 20 mg cholesterol $4-$20
Warfarin 5 mg blood thinner $4-$10
Atenolol 50 mg blood pressure $4-$10
Total medication cost/month= $16-$50

These are cash prices, not insurance co-pays. Insurance plans would not allow you to purchase medication for stockpiling purposes.
Also, in the same manner that firearms and ammunition should be purchased in "common calibers" to allow for ease in buying or bartering, so should medications. Even if you do not take maintenance medications it might make sense in the long run to build up a supply. In much the same way as we seek out kindred survival spirits in firearms,food storage, etc, it is possible to find doctors that may write prescriptions for conditions that you could potentially (wink,wink) develop. Medications used to treat blood pressure or diabetes will be in short supply post-TEOTWAWKI, and it will take several growing seasons for herbal remedies to make their way through the production pipeline. Also, family members, friends and other "guests" will undoubtedly forget their medications in their attempt to G.O.O.D.. Of the top 20 drugs prescribed in the US in 2007, four were for blood pressure, three were for cholesterol, three for GERD (heartburn/ulcer), three for depression, three for asthma/allergy, and one each for thyroid,osteoporosis, sleep and blood thinning. For the sake of brevity, let's focus on the three conditions typically undeserved by over the counter medications:

1) Atenolol: A common beta blocker medication used to treat blood pressure. Common dosages begin at 25 mg daily to twice daily. Purchase the 100 mg strength and cut them in fourths.

2) Metformin: Sulfonylurea class medication used to treat non insulin dependent diabetes. While other drugs such as glipizide or glyburide are less expensive they can also lead to hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) if dosed incorrectly. Metformin does not have that problem. Can also help lower LDL (cholesterol) and tryglycerides- but so will the average post-TEOTWAWKI diet. Dosages begin at 500 mg, twice daily. Where possible, buy the 1,000 mg strength and cut them in half.

3) Tramadol: Non-narcotic pain reliever. Does not have many of the sedating side effects of Lortab, Vicodin, Norco, etc and is not a controlled substance. Tramadol also does not cause the stomach problems (reflux, ulcerations) commonly seen with ibuprofen, aspirin, and naproxen (non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDS)). This will make them easier to obtain as most physicians are more comfortable writing prescriptions for non narcotic pain relievers. Typical dosage is 50 mg up to four times daily as needed.

There are thousands of over-the-counter medications used to treat an unlimited variety of ailments. This can make stockpiling medications difficult. Every health care professional has their personal recommendations, but the following are the five OTC items that should be bought in bulk. They are cheap, effective, and each covers a wide range of potential maladies:

1) Aspirin
Can be used to relieve pain, relieve inflammation, thin the blood and lower fever (do not take on an empty stomach)
2) Benadryl (diphenhydramine)
Can be used to treat itching, rash, allergic reactions, and is the most common ingredient in over the counter sleep aids (will cause drowsiness)
3) Pepto-Bismol
Can be used to treat indigestion, nausea, heartburn and diarrhea.
4) Neosporin
Antibiotic ointment for cuts, scrapes and burns
5) Primatene Mist
The only over the counter inhaler capable of minimizing the symptoms of or stopping an acute asthma attack.

No first aid kit is complete without those five. - LA, R.Ph .

JWR Adds: In several places, "LA" mentioned cutting pills in halves or quarters. This is best accomplished a with a tray-type pill cutter, since cutting pills with a knife --especially those that are not pre-scored for cutting--tends to be messy and inaccurate. Note that many drug companies give away plastic pill cutters marked with their corporate logos as promotional items, so the chances are good that your local retail pharmacist will have some available, free for the asking.


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Rescue Remedy is also great for Mild burns.

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quote:
Originally posted by Nickelless

I didn't even think about that, Kurr. I might get a bag of silver shot from APMEX for that purpose. Thanks for mentioning that.


What ratio of silver to distilled water should be used in making colloidal silver?





About colloidal silver water......I buy my six inch wire rods at my jeweler, he charges about six bucks.

How to make colloidal water....... three nine volts batteries in line, at one end (positive) and at the other end (negative) attached a wire leading to two alligators clips at the other end.

Get hold of a clean "glass" jar with a plastic cover, fill about 7/8 of the jar with destilled water.....make two tiny holes about an inch apart in the plastic top and insert the tow silver wires.

Get hold of a lazer pointer and shine it in the center of the glass jar and little by little you will see more and more tiny bubbles being created from the two silver rods.

Depending on the size of the jar that's how long you let it "cook", I use a small jar and let it cook for about fifteen minutes and drink it as soon as I detach the wires.....also use it my wounds, cleaning, loundry and so on.

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The Special Operations Forces Medical Handbook might seem a bit over-the-top for some people, but I don't think it's possible to be "too prepared" for medical contingencies, especially if there's a widespread enough disaster or unrest that overwhelms normal medical channels:

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I stopped in at Sam's Club today to pick up several items, and as I was in the pharmacy area picking up a huge bottle of naproxen tablets (which are about the only thing that keep my fibromyalgia pain under control), I also happened to notice a largish bottle of Benadryl tablets as well--a 400-count box for less than $4. I'm allergic to peanuts, and Benadryl is often the first line of defense for me if I'm out of epinephrine pens. I hadn't even thought of stocking up on Benadryl, but now that this is on my mental radar, I think I'll pick up an extra bottle of both naproxen and Benadryl on the same day each month that I pick up refills of my migraine medicine. Speaking of which, here's a related thread on building up a supply of prescription medications you may need:

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Great list! I just finished putting together my FAK.

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at my local dollar store i can by for a dollar 12 mens razors in a pack or 10 women's razors in a pack. also worth having for trade is their pharmacy section. better than nothing are the children's gummy bear multivitamins, the fish oil, aspirin and ibuprophen, etc...

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Do you think now with the $850 billion dollar health care bill on the horizon being passed, we could ask our senators to give us everything on the list for FREE? :-)

We could all fax over a copy and ask it be added to the bill. haha Maybe they could just shuffle it inbetween the thousand some page document. Most of them probably wouldn't even notice it since most of them haven't read it :-)

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quote:
Originally posted by PennySaved

Do you think now with the $850 billion dollar health care bill on the horizon being passed, we could ask our senators to give us everything on the list for FREE? :-)

We could all fax over a copy and ask it be added to the bill. haha Maybe they could just shuffle it inbetween the thousand some page document. Most of them probably wouldn't even notice it since most of them haven't read it :-)

Yeah, we see how efficiently the guvmint has been at getting swine flu vaccine produced and distributed. I'm sure everything else they do will go just as smoothly.

Which is exactly why we need to think off the grid and stock up on the items above while we can still get them.


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