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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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 Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:16:30
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Couldn't find the original thread that was talking about this...but.....
I DID IT!
(first I have to preface, there is this gas station on my way to work that I never go to because they have a CASH price and a Credit price...and Cash price isn't any more cheap than their competition.)
So I needed to top off my tank and decidided I would do it at last.
I rolled up 32 rolls of Zincs,
went to the station and started the pump,
topped off my tank at a measly $17.61 and went in to pay.
I started pulling out rolls of cents after rolls of cents and the lady at the counter was like...."um..."
But the kicker is the owner or manager, he has a sercive garage next to the convenience section with the window inside... Sees I'm doing this and comes over,
ONce he is sure of what I am doing you can tell he is agitated... He mumbles "We are not a bank..." "I can't believe you are doing this... we'll spend all day counting them"
To which I respond, "okay, I can wait."
He slams his hand on the counter and says "Okay, let's do it.... (to the cashier) have him count them out" and walks off.
I stall for a bit asking for a cup or bucket to deposited the counted coins into, since the counter room is small.
By the time we find one, he comes back over and is all agitated and says just do it, just take them...
he starts counting the rolls, miscounts, starts over, stammers, ...
I get my receipt and point out, "Hey, I just followed the sign and brought in Cash." He stammers, lets out a couple curse words under his breath and says, "Just get out."
I stand there momentarily (I'm sure, with a satistisfied look on my face) and he says.. This is my property, now get going, get out..
To which I leave.
Wish I had had a camera!!!
I don't feel sorry for the guy because he 'screwed' a friend of mine not too long ago right after he had just added(do it yourself, not highly visible or professional) the "CASH" to the price sign. Friend had gone in to pay and been surprised by the higher charge for using Credit, they had been none at all apologetic.
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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2164 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:19:52
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| (for those that pay too much attention to details.... I only had $16 in pennies, $1.5 in half dollars and 11 cents in loose pennies) |
"May your percentages ever increase!" |
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fiatboy
Administrator
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:26:36
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Brilliant! I shouldn't enjoy these stories as much as I do, but I do! hahaha. 
Such situations wouldn't exist if U.S. currency could actually maintain its purchasing power. In other words, don't blame me. Don't blame the penny. Blame fractional reserve fiat banking!
When I pay in pennies, I never write my personal information on the rolls, and I'm always willing to call their bluff and count each and every one.
The lowly penny is legal tender, which should count for something. |
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:32:38
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Kind of fun, isn't it? Sounds like you picked a good station to do it at. You probably shouldn't go back there.. sometimes they keep a gun behind the counter. Great story!
It's not like you even dropped that many pennies on him. The record still stands at $51.. 2 Bricks and 2 rolls. With the rising price of gas and NotABigDeal's big SUV I don't expect my record to hold up long. |
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wolvesdad
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
2164 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:38:17
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Hahahahaha!!!! Yes, I didn't plan to return until at least I had shaved off my beard.. A different look.
Fortunately I have a common car model(not too distinguisable).
Unfortunately, they have the (Pay Cash inside BEFORE you pump) sign up, ....they they luckily ignored and went ahead and started my pump today. But I'm guessing it will be more strictly inforced in the near future.
Maybe a month later I'll do it again if they haven't yet recended their "Cash" policy and sign.
I'm not sure if I should worry about the gun thing or not... maybe make a test call first to see if the boss seems to be in a good mood that day. |
"May your percentages ever increase!" |
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Crash
Penny Pincher Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:42:36
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| That's great, wolvedad! I haven't had the guts to unload more than $2.00 at a time, yet. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:55:01
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| Pennies shall set you Free!!! |
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CoinHunter53562
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 10:56:19
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| Ha ha....that is too funny! I had a nice visual in my mind of you going in with a load of zincs and plopping them on the counter. And then I could picture the clerk saying "um" in my head and the manager going balistic. I might have to try that here but I dont re-roll my zincs right now. |
My hobby: collecting real money 1 copper cent or nickel at a time.
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 11:13:19
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quote:
Originally posted by wolvesdad
"Hey, I just followed the sign and brought in Cash." He stammers, lets out a couple curse words under his breath and says, "Just get out."
I stand there momentarily (I'm sure, with a satistisfied look on my face) and he says.. This is my property, now get going, get out..
Sounds like the time to call your local TV or radio station. Make a good story "Grumpy Gas Gouger refuses to take legal money" |
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Tourney64
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 11:14:15
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| Why wouldn't the gas station manager taken the zincs in the rolls instead of counting them out. Most businesses would take the rolls and maybe ask for a name and phone number on them. He created the extra effort. I guess he was hoping you would change your mind. I once had a business that took credit cards, and part of the credit card agreement was that the price for credit vs. other forms could not be different. |
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Ant
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
894 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 11:38:00
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Ha ha, you made that guy your zinc slave.   |
Lovely dimes, the liveliest coin, the one that really jingles. --Truman Capote
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cyberdan
Penny Collector Member
USA
289 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 11:42:34
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Originally posted by Tourney64
He created the extra effort. I guess he was hoping you would change your mind.
Have you ever worked in a gas station or had to deal with a station owner? I have, most of those that I have run into were old grumps. 
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El Dee
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 11:53:08
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Let me understand something...
Were your rolls shotgun rolls?
If you used flat rolls I see how he might think he was going to be shorted, but if they were shotgun rolls then he's an idiot. Even if they weren't he's an idiot. He should have opened two at random, checked, then counted out thirty rolls, then told you goodbye.
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Robarons
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
522 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 12:20:17
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That was a very interesting story. Its good to know that theres good reads on this forum.
But kudos to Wolvesdad for buying your gas in pennies. You must have nerves of steel to have pushed this guy to the limit of cursing and demanding to get off his property. I tried to spend 10 rolls ($5) in pennies once and they flat out said "We dont accept these" and pushed them back at me on the counter. I just couldnt pursue and explain their legal tender and walked off. The atmosphere and the people behind me was just too pressure.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
Administrator
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 13:48:06
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Now look what I've gone and started.. LOL. And to think some of you guys didn't believe me when I first reported dumping a brick at a cash or credit gas station a few months ago. 
It can be a challenge. Of course some of us like challenges. It is a bit more of a challenge out here in California since they never turn the pump on until after they have been paid. You have to convince them to take the pennies before you get the gas.
The record still stands at $51. Maybe we should split it into 2 Records. One for Pay first and one for Pay after. If we did that then NotAbigDeal currently holds the Pay After record at $50. |
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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 03/28/2008 13:48:41 |
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psi
Penny Collector Member
Canada
399 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 14:14:44
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| I guess the laws are different in canada and the u.s in this regard. Here there is a law that lists the maximum of each of each denomination you are required to accept as payment: 25 cents of pennies, so much of nickels or smaller, etc. If you offer to pay with more than the limit of a certain denomination, you can be considered to be refusing to pay (as far as I understand). So for example if you eat a meal at a restaurant and then refuse to pay with anything but pennies, they can call the police and say you refused to pay. A lot of places here will also post signs saying they don't accept 50's or hundreds, not sure what the legality of that is though |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts |
Posted - 03/28/2008 : 14:23:49
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| I think there are laws down here like that too psi.. just nobody knows about them. They are primarily to keep you from paying your utility bill in pennies. You know I would love to do that if I could.. it is a pretty big bill. The larger bill thing is common down here too. They are afraid of getting stuck with a fake bill and they also don't want to keep the level of cash in the till that it would require to make change if folks started using the bigger bills. This is probably a good idea on their part. |
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fiatboy
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 14:59:04
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If you press the issue, you can pay anything in pennies, but to press the issue might involve court dates and attorney fees. The non-legal rule of thumb is: if a bank will take it, the store should take it.
Most countries---the U.K. and Canada come to mind---have very explicit laws regarding how much of a certain denomination you may pay with. I don't know about the U.S. |
"Bart, it's not about how many stocks you have, it's about how much copper wire you can get out of the building." --- Homer Simpson |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 17:29:41
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I need to sort some so I can shatter my gas purchasing record. Wonder how much a full tank of premium would be....
Deal |
Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 17:36:31
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| Why do you think I decided to split the record into 2 classes. It's not fair that you don't have to tell them you are paying in pennies until after the gas is pumped? |
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coincollector101
Penny Sorter Member
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 17:46:07
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HAHA I love it!
I bet I can get my gas station owner to let me unload 25 a week in pennies.
So he don't have to come get coins from work from me. LOL Though he dont use that much :/
The Only Reason I go there is every Thursday he gives me premium gas for the plus price :)
I have to run plus so she runs that much sweeter with premium.
It costs me 50ish to fill up with premium. Most stations for .10 cents more on premium fuel over plus.
CC
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 17:47:55
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| Give him the whole 50 in pennies. What are you driving that you have to put Chevas Regal in it? |
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coincollector101
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 18:56:28
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300m Special edition I get gas once a week so comes out to 25-30 a week.
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swusc
Penny Hoarding Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 19:50:04
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I am pretty sure the law states that currency is good for all
debts public or private. Therefore, they have to take any form of currency in the US. $50s or $100 or pennies.
The catch on the bigger bills is they don't have to make change. :) So if you pay for $60 in gas with a $100.. They can tell you we will take the $100, but we wont give you change. Which loopholes the requirement.
I think they would be breaking the law if they didn't take the pennies, but I doubt you could get anyone to enforce it.
Got to love legal tender laws!
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"This is the shabby secret of the welfare statists' tirades against gold. Deficit spending is simply a scheme for the "hidden" confiscation of wealth. Gold stands in the way of this insidious process. It stands as a protector of property rights. If one grasps this, one has no difficulty in understanding the statists' antagonism toward the gold standard." Alan Greenspan, 1966. |
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 19:54:51
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| I think there is some fine print somewhere that makes exceptions to these rules to give the merchants an out. Coinage is not currency. I think I read somewhere that they can refuse to accept pennies if the amount is over something like 50 cents. Maybe I should get out the cart and wheel in a few bricks of pennies to the PG&E office next week and see what they say. |
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NotABigDeal
1000+ Penny Miser Member
USA
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Posted - 03/28/2008 : 20:01:58
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quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
I think there is some fine print somewhere that makes exceptions to these rules to give the merchants an out. Coinage is not currency. I think I read somewhere that they can refuse to accept pennies if the amount is over something like 50 cents. Maybe I should get out the cart and wheel in a few bricks of pennies to the PG&E office next week and see what they say.
Do it....I DOUBLE DARE you....hehe. It would be nice. You would hold another record.
Deal |
Live free or die.
Plain and simple.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your council or your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
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