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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 03/23/2008 :  22:01:21  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Someday you may sell some of your pennies. If you do you will want to ship them safely. I have heard some horror stories about penny shipments busting open during shipment. I would hate for that to happen to any of our forum members. I thought I would share some shipping tips here. Hopefully others can share some ideas as well.

If the shipment gets damaged in transit it is bad for both the buyer and seller. I have been shipping large quantities of pennies for several years. I shipped about 2 tons last year. I once shipped an entire mint sewn bag in what is now a $4.60 Flat Rate envelope.. it was $3.20 back then. The mistake most people make is not properly reinforcing the box. Assume the post office is going to bounce this box a few times. They sometimes abuse heavy flat rate boxes. First, you need lots of the good 3M tape. Costco is usually the best place to get that. You run 5 stips long ways across the bottom.. then 5 strips crossways to that.. going to about the middle of the outside of the box on each end.
Then you need to tape the entire middle of the box. The place most people have their flat rate boxes fail is on the corner seams of the box. You run 3 strips all the way around the box. This cucoons the box in tape and also adds moisture resistance and structural integrity. Now for the interior of the box you want to add additional reinforcement. You take a second box (they are free) and tear into 4 sections at the seams. You will have 2 narrow sections and 2 wide sections. You place the narrow sections on the bottom with one flap up on each end to reinforce the bottom. Next you will take the wide sections and cut off about half of one end tab on each. Then you place them in the box on the bottom with one flap running the length on each side. When you finish it will look like you assembled a little interior box inside the main box. Next you tape the 4 inside corners. This gives your inside reinforcement more structural integrity. Now you add the pennies. Standard shipping quantity is 7500 coins in 3 packages of 2500 each. If shipping 2500 or 5000 pennies use 1 or 2 stuffed $25 penny boxes as spacers. You can ship them loose by using the free tyvek priority bags and taping them after sealing to create tyvek penny bricks or you can roll all the coins up and place them in 3 penny boxes. The penny boxes fit perfectly in the Flat rate box but if using those you might want to eliminate the 2 reinforcing side flaps so the sides don't pooch out. Also, tape the penny boxes closed just in case they get bounced hard. Next you want to put packing material on top to eliminate movement of the contents. Many boxes fail because the weight shifts and tears the box during handling so you want to make sure there is no place for the pennies to move. Best and cheapest way to do this is with used penny wrappers. You don't want them loose in there so they fly everywhere when the box is opened so you make a packing pillow by stuffing them into one of the free tyvek envelopes and sealing it. This is a good way to get rid of your used penny wrappers. Now you close the lid. Tape it just like you did the bottom.. 5 strips each way. You can print a priority shipping label through PayPal and you get Free delivery confirmation if you do it that way. Then you just tape the label onto the box. I also print a seperate address sticker and put it on the box under where I attach the shipping label just in case the PO manages to destroy your shipping label. I also put a seperate return address label in the upper left hand corner of the box. Also not a bad idea to include a packing slip inside the box as well as attaching an extra shipping label to each interior package. You have to take the package down to the post office since anything over 1 pound is considered a potential bomb.

Hope everyone's penny packages arrive safely.

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Tourney64
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Posted - 03/23/2008 :  22:40:32  Show Profile Send Tourney64 a Private Message
What are the approximate box dimensions that you ship them in?
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Ardent Listener
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USA
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Posted - 03/24/2008 :  08:05:36  Show Profile Send Ardent Listener a Private Message
Thanks for this important information and I think it is great that you restricted it to our membership. I'm going to make this thread sticky for a while.

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Ant
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USA
894 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  11:55:56  Show Profile Send Ant a Private Message
All that for just $4.60! Mad props to you -- you sure know how to get your money's worth!! Impressive! :)

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Edited by - Ant on 03/24/2008 11:56:30
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 03/24/2008 :  13:33:00  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Actually it is $8.95 for the flat rate box Ant. They changed the rules on the $4.60 envelopes saying you can't reinforce the outside with tape now.. makes shipping decent weight with those a bit more tricky now.. involving making an inerior sleeve etc. In the old days they didn't have the flat rate boxes.. I think they must have come out with them just for me. So much easier than the way we used to ship bags of wheat cents in 2 Flat Rate envelopes.

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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 03/24/2008 13:35:10
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the_cent_guy
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USA
114 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  17:13:51  Show Profile Send the_cent_guy a Private Message
PICTURES ARE NEEDED!

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Ant
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USA
894 Posts

Posted - 03/24/2008 :  17:58:14  Show Profile Send Ant a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon

Actually it is $8.95 for the flat rate box Ant. They changed the rules on the $4.60 envelopes saying you can't reinforce the outside with tape now..

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longhorn
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Posted - 03/25/2008 :  21:38:15  Show Profile Send longhorn a Private Message
Your description makes me want to buy a box just so I can see how you do it.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 03/27/2008 :  21:52:27  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I'm sure we could arrange that. I just put one up for auction on eBay.

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copperpennies
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USA
222 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2008 :  22:00:55  Show Profile Send copperpennies a Private Message
For Christmas my mom got something that i think was in a flat rate box. The only problem is that the banks that i get coins from are serviced by Garda which has Harrison and Son's CWI boxes. I believe that a HArrison and sons box is bigger because of the way they put the pennies in. The CWI boxes are 4 inches thick and i think the other boxes are a little thinner then that. Could you measure a brinks box and tell me? The only way to fit in the box is to put one on its side.
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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2008 :  04:49:27  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
I have shipped both types of boxes in the flat rate shipper. The Brinks box stands upright.. the other type box goes in sideways. 3 boxes fit perfectly across the bottom.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2008 :  04:51:54  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by longhorn

Your description makes me want to buy a box just so I can see how you do it.


I'm sure that could be arranged. I have one up for auction on eBay right now. Check the Buy/Sell section for a link.

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the_cent_guy
Penny Pincher Member



USA
114 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2008 :  20:37:13  Show Profile Send the_cent_guy a Private Message
Any suggestions for insurance? Should you use the face value? Or the sale value? Does anyone have experience with this?

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
6807 Posts

Posted - 03/31/2008 :  00:09:26  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Something to think about. If the buyer wants to pay for insurance I go ahead and insure it. But if you think about it, you would have a heck of a time ever collecting on a claim. If you read the fine print on the priority box it says you are not supposed to ship cash or cash equivalents. So they probably would not pay off if they lost it. You are probably just wasting your money paying the insurance.

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etdaddy
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USA
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Posted - 03/31/2008 :  23:51:10  Show Profile Send etdaddy a Private Message
Great advice. I also have lost a couple of coins when the corners of the box give out.

However, I just received a really nicely sent package. It was the $8.95 flat rate box with 6 individually sealed "Priority Mail" mailing boxes inside. They hold 10 pounds each for a total of roughly 9000 pennies. I believe you could fit $100 worth in a flat rate this way and the maximum weight is 70 lbs? Anyway, these boxes are all free and VERY secure.


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Art Tatum
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USA
400 Posts

Posted - 05/08/2008 :  02:40:50  Show Profile Send Art Tatum a Private Message
holy cow Chuck!

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insurrection1517
Penny Collector Member



USA
262 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  14:50:33  Show Profile Send insurrection1517 a Private Message
When you say that you are no longer allowed to reinforce the outside of a flat rate envelope with tape, do you mean that you are not allowed to plaster it with tape so that it holds massive amounts of weight? Those envelopes are cheaply made and the seams need to be taped even for shipping a book or a light weight item. I would tape it up securely even if I was sending a few pieces of paper. The glue around the side and bottom seams is very weak.

Who told you this rule? A local postal worker? or is official?

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 :  19:02:38  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
The local post office told me and then produced a copy of the memo from the main regional post office outlining the new rule. The way around this it to get 2 of those envelopes and cut one down slightly and tape the heck out of it.. then slide it into the outer sleeve.

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Edited by - HoardCopperByTheTon on 05/28/2008 19:03:42
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insurrection1517
Penny Collector Member



USA
262 Posts

Posted - 05/28/2008 :  19:29:03  Show Profile Send insurrection1517 a Private Message
Good idea!

The post office is going insane with regulations like that. If that is enforced, junk is going to be falling out all over the place, and people will complain.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 :  19:42:55  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
Well most of my packages go by Flat Rate box now anyway. Interesting note though.. I heard from one of my customers that their local postal person told them I was not supposed to tape up the outside of the box.. LOL.

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NotABigDeal
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USA
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Posted - 05/28/2008 :  19:58:39  Show Profile Send NotABigDeal a Private Message
I tape the outside of the envelopes always. Anyone from this board that has received something from me has the taped envelope to prove it. Never a problem. Of course I drop most off in the 24 hour drop in the Post Office lobby....

Deal

p.s. Different regions I guess....

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jadedragon
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Canada
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Posted - 06/02/2008 :  01:09:23  Show Profile Send jadedragon a Private Message
So forgive my ignorance (I live in Canada so don't use the USPS much). Can I take a nice full $ 25 face box of coin and ship it inside a flat rate box? It is mint sealed so I would rather not open it and rearrange it. Got to get my hands on some of these flat rate boxes, reinforce them at home, and haul them back across the border.

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Saul Mine
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2008 :  08:43:15  Show Profile Send Saul Mine a Private Message
Uh, they are only flat rate if you ship from a US post office. Check with your Canadian post office to see what's available there. Go to usps.com to check US rates.

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HoardCopperByTheTon
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USA
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Posted - 06/02/2008 :  13:43:33  Show Profile Send HoardCopperByTheTon a Private Message
legacy.. if you drive back and forth across the border to do it and are shipping from a US post office to a US address it will work. You can fit 3 of those boxes in a flat rate box.

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kavajava
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USA
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Posted - 06/15/2008 :  14:05:45  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message
When getting a box full of heavy coin it sure is nice to immediately see that it was packaged well. Helps keep the good will in the transaction.

Very disappointing to receive a package that is not properly secured--makes you very hesitant to do business with that person again, even if there were no problems this time.
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kavajava
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USA
490 Posts

Posted - 06/15/2008 :  14:10:49  Show Profile Send kavajava a Private Message
oops--forgot to mention the importance of having everything inside the box secured as well, as mentioned above. Hard to believe that some folks just toss rolls of coin into the box and put a minimum amount of filler in. Seems common sense to keep everything from moving around. I really like the idea above of using several pri mail boxes inside the one big box--keeps it secure, and hey--they are free as well!

I recently received some BU nickel rolls, and two rolls had split and spilled all over the inside of the box. Don't think any left the box as the edges were sealed, but, makes me hesitant to buy from that guy again (or at least will give him some suggestions for packing next time).
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