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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  22:45:53  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
I know there is not much left to this.

I can't imagine how many times this piece of copper has been spent.

Uthminsta probaby can name it off the top of his head.




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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:00:33  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
The crest looks Spanish or Portuguese, just off my head. No idea if that is right but I will poke around ye olde internet.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:02:42  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Yep, that's one of the Spanish Royal Coat of Arms.


And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:09:17  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Further research says: that is the "lesser" or "abbreviated" coat of arms of the King of Spain, from 1700-1868. So the coin is sometime during that 168 year period. You might be able to narrow it down by the silhouette of the monarch.

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:15:26  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
you're good AM! The monarch looks like a woman and I think I see an 8 on the right side of the bust.

The strike seems way off center very primitive.

The coin in it's current state weighs 10 grams.

OK AM.....compute.

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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:23:50  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
From the nose it looks like Phillip I, also known as Joseph-Napoléon Bonaparte, King of Naples and Sicily, King of Spain and the Indies, Comte de Survilliers. He was the older brother of Napoleon I of France, who made him King of Naples and Sicily (1806–1808) and later King of Spain as Joseph I of Spain (6 June 1808 – 11 December 1813).

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:25:01  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Its not a woman the only female monarch in the time period of that coat of arms was Isabella II and she was FAT. Remember, dudes had those little mullet tails back then. The 8 would be consistent with Phillip's reign 1808-1813.

Woof!

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484

Edited by - AGgressive Metal on 08/31/2010 23:26:53
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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:26:33  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
It's an 8 Maravedis Ferdinand VII KM#486.1 1815-1833.

The date is long gone.

Thanks for the clues AM

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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:28:16  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Cool!

Here is a better one:


And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484
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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:28:48  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
Dude you need to remove that picture or I'm complaining to the moderators....

Oh nevermind.

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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:30:37  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thogey

Dude you need to remove that picture or I'm complaining to the moderators....

Oh nevermind.



Not the coin I'm talkin about Izzy

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AGgressive Metal
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:31:29  Show Profile Send AGgressive Metal a Private Message
Shes got some serious bling going.

Would you? If it made you King of Spain?

And he that hath lyberte ought to kepe hit wel / For nothyng is better than lyberte / For lyberte shold not be wel sold for alle the gold and syluer of all the world.
-Caxton's edition of Aesop's Fables, 1484

Edited by - AGgressive Metal on 08/31/2010 23:33:15
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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:35:17  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
That photo is heinous. The artistic impression on KM 530.2 makes her look not so heinous.

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thogey
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Posted - 08/31/2010 :  23:37:12  Show Profile Send thogey a Private Message
I like your edit. Yes I would, for a lot less, but I'd have to gouge my eyes out first.

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uthminsta
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Posted - 09/01/2010 :  00:19:10  Show Profile Send uthminsta a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by thogey Uthminsta probaby can name it off the top of his head.

I appreciate the, umm, compliment. Sorry I wasn't here for the hunt. Where'd you get it? And now that you know where to look for the date, can you make anything out? They were made every year from 1815-1833. No apparent "key" dates although I am still using a 1996 edition of the 19th century Krause catalog. There may be more information that has been found in the last 14 years.

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