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| zseabass |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 14:07:45
I've just recently been getting into copper pennies....while I would like to be able to hoard the sometime in the near future, i don't have the capital to really do that, i need to make $, Food, clothes for my kids and mortgage cost money.....so for right now the only way I can really be in the hobby and investment aspect of this is to supply some of you.....I can come up with any amount wanted and the price and shipping can be negotiated.....Like I said I'm new to this and dont have that much yet (roughly 40lbs) but if I can find a buyer I can fill orders (it might take a while as I am still a hand sorter, but I'll sort day and night if need be) Please get back to me on this!!!!!!
Zach |
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| JobIII |
Posted - 10/08/2009 : 16:23:04
Hey sorry if i went over board. Both sides have been presented... and sales are being made thanks to HoardCopperByTheTon. So everyone wins!
on to the weekend. |
| HoardCopperByTheTon |
Posted - 10/08/2009 : 09:38:31
I went back and reread zseabass's original post. It can be interpreted a couple of different ways. I interpeted it to say that he wanted to enjoy the hobby, but did not have extra capital to tie up in building a large hoard. He said he could however enjoy the hobby if he could market his copper to other members. I didn't see anything that said his home and children are in jeapordy, just that they come first. Job keyed on the phrase "I need money" and offered advise on more lucrative endeavors. If money is your main motivation, then he certainly is correct that a second job would be a much more viable alternative. There might be a bit of a line for that job, though. Many folks in this country would be happy to get a 1st job. If your primary job is sufficient to meet your monthly obligations but there is not a lot of fat in the budget for hobbies, then one can enjoy this hobby without tying up significant amounts of capital by cycling their working capital with timely deposits of zinc and selling off each shipment of copper as it is developed for a meager profit and return of capital. 
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| JobIII |
Posted - 10/08/2009 : 08:58:43
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Sure, there are plenty of ways to make more money, but how much fun are they? I would never belittle another member's efforts to enjoy the hobby, or try to discourage them in any way.
I just think we are all overlooking the big issue that enjoyment isn't really a primary focus when your children and home are in jeopardy.
I've been trying to huck copper lots and haven't had any luck, but the funds i'm using aren't being diverted from anything important.
I really just don't see anyone that needs money for real-time issues, making what they need through this line of work (hobby).
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| JobIII |
Posted - 10/08/2009 : 08:47:41
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Originally posted by PreservingThePast
Zseabass...welcome to our world. A world where a fun hobby can sometimes become a little profitable.
JobIII...I'm not wanting to come across as offensive and I have absolutely no idea what sort of circumstances that zseabass is experiencing. HOWEVER, nothing in this world is absolute. Nothing, is black and white. Nothing, is cut and dry.
I know you were speaking to him but it touched me and hurt me deeply. I have prayed day and night for over five years now for my health to be better, for my eyes to be healed to where I could once again drive, for me to be able to go out and be able to get a job and work. BUT, these prayers have fallen on deaf ears, or so it seems to me.
I can't work as I can't drive and we don't live anywhere near public transportation. There is nothing in walking distance that I could work.
Yes, I look upon searching the coins as a hobby and a labor of love for the birthday coin projects that I am doing for the kids. But, as I sit and sort I literally thank God each and every time a roll isn't shorted. And I give extra praise anytime I find something interesting that I might be able to sell down the road for a little bit of money, as I was able to do last year with some 1998 and 2000 Wide AMs.
And, no, I am not fortunate to be receiving any sort of disability coverage. Life is rough these days, for so many of us. The world is in very uncertain times.
So, please don't assume that a person can automatically go out and find a job. I'd literally give almost anything I could to be able to do just that!
I'm not really sure you grasped my message to Zseabass. I'm glad that you found success through prayer PTP, but prayer doesn't feed people, cloth them, or help them pay a mortgage.
Nice comments, PTP, but they are off topic considering his initial post, regarding his need for money and a desire to earn more through copper searching. Why should any one be misguided? |
| metalmoney.ca |
Posted - 10/08/2009 : 07:34:31
The last thing I`m sure we want to see on this forum is someone that is hungry and can`t buy food because he has $800 in pennies that he can`t sell quick enough. I`m thinking that is JobIII`s fear, and cause for concern. It`s a cheap hobby, but it really can be addictive. I started sorting before i got a car, and I have a mountain of zinc... it`s a lot of money `tied up`
If you aren`t gonna need a thousand bux or so, then he can hand sort, sell, and repeat. But if he`s paying 20% on a credit card while he`s doing it (just an example, i have no idea...like preserving the past said, nothing is absolute) then it`s probably not a good idea to do it to scratch out a buck.
just my opinion... |
| HoardCopperByTheTon |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 23:49:12
I need to earn money for food, clothes and a mortgage too.. and to support a bad coin habit. I'm sure most of the members here do. Obviously the margins are not great right now, but not everyone is as well capitalized as they would like. We all buy, sell or hoard as our circumstances allow. I myself sold off a few tons when copper was at it's peak and diversified into silver and gold. I think most folks here have done the calculations, and yet we continue to sort. Why? Perhaps we enjoy the hobby, and by selling off some of what we sort it allows us to continue without having to raid the family treasury or take food off the table. It can also help keep things harmoneous on the home front if the SO sees a net inflow of cash from the operation.. however meager. How many hobbies are not big drains of cash on the family budget?
Sure, there are plenty of ways to make more money, but how much fun are they? I would never belittle another member's efforts to enjoy the hobby, or try to discourage them in any way. |
| PreservingThePast |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 20:35:18
Zseabass...welcome to our world. A world where a fun hobby can sometimes become a little profitable.
JobIII...I'm not wanting to come across as offensive and I have absolutely no idea what sort of circumstances that zseabass is experiencing. HOWEVER, nothing in this world is absolute. Nothing, is black and white. Nothing, is cut and dry.
I know you were speaking to him but it touched me and hurt me deeply. I have prayed day and night for over five years now for my health to be better, for my eyes to be healed to where I could once again drive, for me to be able to go out and be able to get a job and work. BUT, these prayers have fallen on deaf ears, or so it seems to me.
I can't work as I can't drive and we don't live anywhere near public transportation. There is nothing in walking distance that I could work.
Yes, I look upon searching the coins as a hobby and a labor of love for the birthday coin projects that I am doing for the kids. But, as I sit and sort I literally thank God each and every time a roll isn't shorted. And I give extra praise anytime I find something interesting that I might be able to sell down the road for a little bit of money, as I was able to do last year with some 1998 and 2000 Wide AMs.
And, no, I am not fortunate to be receiving any sort of disability coverage. Life is rough these days, for so many of us. The world is in very uncertain times.
So, please don't assume that a person can automatically go out and find a job. I'd literally give almost anything I could to be able to do just that!
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| JobIII |
Posted - 10/07/2009 : 11:09:16
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Originally posted by zseabass
I've just recently been getting into copper pennies....while I would like to be able to hoard the sometime in the near future, i don't have the capital to really do that, i need to make $, Food, clothes for my kids and mortgage cost money.....so for right now the only way I can really be in the hobby and investment aspect of this is to supply some of you.....I can come up with any amount wanted and the price and shipping can be negotiated.....Like I said I'm new to this and dont have that much yet (roughly 40lbs) but if I can find a buyer I can fill orders (it might take a while as I am still a hand sorter, but I'll sort day and night if need be) Please get back to me on this!!!!!!
Zach
Hi Zach,
I just wanted to reiterate what a couple other members have stated, first what people here mainly see penny bullion as either a long term investment or a non-profit hobby.
I don't want to come off as offensive, and you live no where near me so please don't think i'm worried about you depleting the copper cent supplies in circulation. Okay...
From what you've posted, it seems like you're hurting for $$, so this is my advice for a person in your situation:
If you need to make Money...Get a part-time job, it will pay better per hour spent looking for copper cents. You'll need to sort $400 dollars to find $100 dollars that you may sell for a profit of $20 dollars.
How long did it take to count your lot that Hoard was going to buy off you? You're wasting your time. It'll cost you about $600-800 to get set-up with ryedale + coin counter. Can you afford to go this far in the whole and still look through $100's pennies?
If you really meant what you said about needing to earn money for food, clothes and a mortgage. Get serious and start working anywhere you can find it, even minimum wage.
If you're not working now...Find another job
Why isn't anyone else having the gut reaction i'm having after reading his post.
The idea sounds incredibly profitable but it's not, especially for the average handsorter. So you can listen to all the people posting welcomes and good lucks, but if you are seriously in need of more money. Get a Job or a second Job, if you're married have your wife work, or have her get a second job. If the kids are in day care, see if relatives nearby can help sit some of the time.
IMHO, I would rather hear this then be misguided into a false sense of security. You'd realize it yourself after a while but that would mean time wasted not earning the money you need for your house and CHILDREN.
~JobIII |
| zseabass |
Posted - 10/06/2009 : 15:16:07
well i need one more post till i can PM, so here it is |
| AGgressive Metal |
Posted - 10/05/2009 : 01:58:37
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Originally posted by zseabass
thanks agian for all of the advise and offers to help ma get started......You all have proven thus far to more than friendly and encoraging......also I have run across 50 or so wheats but I thing I'm going to wait to get some more before I think of selling them.....thanks again!
Z
Great - wheats are easy to sell. You can get 3-4 cents for common dates in the 40s/50s and potentially much more for rare dates. |
| HoardCopperByTheTon |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 21:40:12
"Sir, why is your car sagging so much in the back?"
"Sir, would you mind opening the trunk.. so I can inspect it?"
"Sir, you weren't intending to attempt a border crossing with this, were you?"
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| slickeast |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 21:04:58
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Originally posted by HoardCopperByTheTon
I don't you want you to work too hard on them. I will run them through one of my Mach 7's (4,000 CPM) to get the exact count. Then run them through one of the Ryedales for copper verification.
wow...HoardCopperByTheTon, he might not want to deal with someone that is talking gibberish
If you were pulled over and said that to the cop, you would here this. " Sir, Can you please step out of the vehicle?" |
| HoardCopperByTheTon |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 20:58:28
I don't you want you to work too hard on them. I will run them through one of my Mach 7's (4,000 CPM) to get the exact count. Then run them through one of the Ryedales for copper verification. |
| slickeast |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 20:51:03
zseabass, welcome to the forum. There are a bunch of great guys...and gals on here. And there is always something new to learn. If you have any questions, just throw them out there. These guys are straight shooters and they always try to give you the best answer that they can.
Hoard is a great guy and I know that he will be more than happy to buy your coppers....he Hoards them by the ton. |
| zseabass |
Posted - 10/04/2009 : 18:53:26
Hey there guys.......I've not been able to check this for a few days.....dont want you all to think that I've flaked out or anything like that....Oh yeah, Hoard I'm getting an exact count and making sure that there aren't any zincs in there at all, I'll let you know once I've counted everything.
Z |
| zseabass |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 18:27:32
thats good to know....
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| Kurr |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 17:15:12
Bout 40 min NW of louisville here.
There are a few Indiana sorters here. |
| zseabass |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 12:34:51
thanks agian for all of the advise and offers to help ma get started......You all have proven thus far to more than friendly and encoraging......also I have run across 50 or so wheats but I thing I'm going to wait to get some more before I think of selling them.....thanks again!
Z |
| Copper Catcher |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 11:36:50
zseabass, Welcome to Realcent!
If you run across any wheat pennies and want to sell them I'll pay you .03 each and others will do the same.
I'm gathering some for another bag to put aside for my nephews.
I think you will find this is a friendly bunch and you will constantly learn something new! ~Enjoy~ |
| jadedragon |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 11:17:23
That is a nice offer from Hoard. I'm in Canada and also started handsorting, sold some Canadian Ni off, sorted more and made enough profit to buy my Ryedale Coin Artist. Then I sorted more, sold and made enough to buy a CS-10 counter. I've also amassed silver from trades here and a few silver finds in dimes, quarters and 1/2 (during trips to the US).
You will not get rich quick but you can made a good side income. Just be sure to save away some copper pennies for yourself... no one will miss a few pennies in the budget right? |
| zseabass |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 08:39:54
thanks Hoard-
I would really appreciate the help getting started......I guess I need to put on a few more posts so I can PM.....But I'm anxious to get going on this and we can work the details out whenever you are ready to discuss it. Thanks again
Z |
| HoardCopperByTheTon |
Posted - 09/30/2009 : 01:07:53
Welcome to the forum zseabass. It makes cents to a lot of us here. It is certainly not a get rich quick scheme. There is plenty of actual work involved.. but it is fun work, and can be done at your own pace, in the convenience of your own home.. till the signicant other bans you and your penny operation to the garage or basement.
The average person does not see how fractions of a cent can add up. From a time standpoint you probably might be better off saying the phrase "Would you like fries with that?" But this is easy, has some interesting challenges, and there are plenty of true believers right here on this board. There is a hoard of information here.. just free for the reading.
The beauty of this hobby is that you can play at any level. I started out as a hand sorter just like you. I was able to parlay the copper I sorted into more capital to buy more raw material with and repeat the process. Sort of like a snowball effect. After selling off a goodly amount of copper from my sorting I was able to buy a machine to help with my sorting. Production increased. I parlayed that into more machines.. improving the efficiency of the process.
There is a market for your copper pennies. It is a little soft right now, but still profitable. You are getting pretty close to having enough to ship. 50 pounds would be a good first shipment. That works out to about 3 boxes. I would be happy to buy your first shipment to help you get started. If you get new zinc pennies at any of your banks I am always looking for those.. and you don't even have to sort them. |
| zseabass |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 22:00:20
I'm really appreciative of all the advice, just curious......do you all think that the reason that most people that I have mentioned doing this to (g-ma, step-mom)have dismissed it is that the sheer numbers are too high, or that there cant be a way you could make a buck from a penny or a combination of both. To me it makes perfect cents(little play on words, thank you very much)
Z
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| fb101 |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 21:36:41
quote:
Originally posted by zseabass
hey man thanks for the tips....I checked out ur ebay listing where is lexinton, indiana I'm assuming the southern part of the state.....I'm in Peru, 20 miles north of Kokomo. I really dont have $100 right now so I guess I'll list what I've got and take you advise on not wasting space shipping. I've also got a few Morgan Silver Dollars.....(1921-s and 1882) the 1882 is really nice, great detail...do you think its worth it to get a coin graded?....I've had success with grading in 50's and 60's Baseball cards in the past....but the market has really bottomed in cards as of late....anyways thanks agian and dont be a stranger!
Zach
Doesn't seem like grading will help those. Only rare dates or high grade uncirculateds are worth grading.
I seriously suggest you wait on the selling until you have more. shipping costs make small amounts not worth it. Your potential profits get eaten up by shipping.
Also you have to get to 10 posts before you can PM and that's pretty much mandatory for selling since few post their personal info publicly. looks like you're on your way to that though. |
| Bluegill |
Posted - 09/29/2009 : 20:54:57
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